Subject: Re: [permaculture] The permaculture FAQ - origin and contributors
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 18:39:06 -0600
Larry -
The Permaculture FAQ was something that I crafted and posted
on the Permaculture List because I support permaculture,
I enjoyed the permaculture list, and I thought it would be helpful
as an educational piece I can use in my workshops and also
for my ATTRA work. A few resources and suggestions were
likely shared from fellow participants in response to posts to
the group.
Though, Dan Hemenway sure huffed and puffed about that one because
it used the word "sustainable agriculture" and to Dan, the "SA" word
is an oxymoron.
Developing a framework to present a large concept, and boiling
it down to a coherent and interesting piece takes time and creativity.
To that extent, I do feel like the Permaculture FAQ achieved a
framework that has worked well.
That is part of the reason I posted the The Power of Duck
book. It is designed really well. Get yourself a copy and enjoy
a good layout.
Steve Diver
"Lawrence F. London, Jr." wrote:
> 1) The permaculture FAQ began in this permaculture list many years ago
> 2) Many list subscribers participated in the development of this FAQ
> by contributing material to be included in it. Some edited the material
> submitted (posted to the list and/or exchanged in email)
> and created working drafts which were then put online for downlad
> by gopher or ftp, later by http in websites, namely mine and
> CSF's in Colorado.
> 3) At some point Steve Diver volunteered to edit and organize the FAQ
> in a formal document with named verions and revisions. This document
> remained accessable from CSF and my website.
>
> I think there was a version of the FAQ, perhaps the V. 2 that Thilo
> referred to earlier, that was still the product of community effort and
> was neither copyrighted nor owned by anyone.
>
> 4) A number of years ago Steve formally took over maintaining the PC FAQ
> as part of his work at ATTRA while developing extensive permaculture
> resources for that organization. The PC FAQ then became
> part of a large body of information offered by ATTRA and was made
> accessable on their website. I am sure all us of greatly appreciate
> Steve's and ATTRA's contribution to the world of permaculture.
>
> It would seem that the information contained in the PC faq from V2 back
> (i.e. items 1) & 2) above) might be considered community property;
> anything after that should be considered copyrighted by
> Steve and/or ATTRA.
>
> Thilo has also contributed significantly, over many years, in lists and
> newsgroups, by stimulating interest in PC and in developing the means
> for distributing permaculture information around the globe
> to those who need it.
>
> If anyone else has anything else to offer to this train of thought
> please contribute. Maybe this offering can help extinguish any flame
> war(s) real or imagined.
>
> Lawrence
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