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I agree… I meant “joy”
as in a religious joy, not normal happiness. My cats experience emotions
it seems – they are quite happy and very content (I’m guessing cuz
they’re purring away!) when they get lots of the attention they’re
constantly clamoring for! But they don’t have the spiritual
inclinations of a symbol-mongerer. In the Helen Keller passage, which Percy
quotes in Message, in which she learns “water” as the word, the
symbol that is (not the sign, which she had already been using), she says she
experiences joy. Then she wants the name for everything, and goes into the
house, where she finds her doll which she had just broken earlier in a fit of
anger. She feels remorse and sorrow for the first time. I think
less that the emotions are “more complex” (quantitatively
different) and more that they are of a (qualitatively) different sort, that
related to self-consciousness, awareness of life and death, religious intuition
and capacities – the same thing as symbol-mongering capacity. I did read Jaynes and commented on it in
an earlier posting (years ago?) in this list after I read it – mostly that
I thought I had read somewhere that Percy found Jaynes’ theories
interesting but I found that difficult to believe as I thought Jaynes was
really bizarre (though interesting). KP From:
percy-l-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:percy-l-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of RHONDA MCDONNELL I hate to throw another monkey
wrench into this conversation, but I have to take exception to one segment of
Karey's otherwise fine argument. Karey wrote: --Rhonda
> From: karey1 AT charter.net How well do you know your celebrity gossip? Talk
celebrity smackdowns here. |
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