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On Behalf Of Parlin, Steven Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003
7:24 PM To: 'Percy-L: Literary and Philosophical
Discussion' Subject: RE: [percy-l] gay marriage
Alexander Pope was an insightful man... I think this is apropos to parts of our discussion.
Vice is a monster of so frightful mien, As to be hated needs but to be
seen; Yet seen too oft, familiar with her face, We first endure, then pity,
then embrace.
Robert, while this is not a "screeds" free citation (I'm not quite sure
if that is even possible) it is among the most clearly stated intellectual
positions regarding this matter of homosexuality (which in the end really
isn't an issue of its own, but is the banner for a much larger cultural shift
regarding family, marriage, and sexuality), that I
have read.
In fact, for anyone really interested
in understanding the Church's concerns, I think this is probably one of the
finer "lay" documents available.
-----Original Message----- From: Robert_Pauley AT oxy.com
[mailto:Robert_Pauley AT oxy.com] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 8:46
PM To: percy-l AT lists.ibiblio.org Subject: RE: [percy-l]
gay marriage
Can anyone refer me to a well-reasoned
and well-referenced intellectual/moral argument in opposition to gay
marriage and, perhaps, to homosexuality in general. No screeds or strictly
religious arguments, please. Many thanks. RP
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[mailto:percy-l-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of RHONDA
MCDONNELL Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 6:38 PM To:
Percy-L: Literary and Philosophical Discussion Subject: Re:
[percy-l] gay marriage
Hi Karey:
You might be interested in Harold Bloom's contention that the Hebrew
pronouns which refer to God in the original Old Testament are
genderless. Since I don't read Hebrew, I can't check this, but I do
know that Milton also agrees with you. Not bad company to be
in. And we may as well throw in Plato's SYMPOSIUM as another
argument that precedes yours.
I think our spirits/souls ultimately
transcend gender -- God has no genitals (although we traditionally and
misleadingly refer to "Him" as a "He," gender is by definition a
physical trait and God is not physical - only Jesus).