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Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 22:10:04 -0500
The purple raspberry that I developed will be sold by Hartmann Plant Company,
Lakota, MI, starting this year. Besides the really delicious flavor, two
traits make it outstanding. They are: 1) one 5 year old plant produced 16
pounds of fruit and 2)occupies 24 ft. of row. Thorns are numerous but tiny
measuring only 2 to 3 mm. high. Hartmann has been selling my Zone 3 Black
Raspberry and will soon introduce my zone 3 blackberry. common names will be
added upon introductions.
Jim Fruth
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I'm in need of your help to put together the next Pomona. Questions, with or
without answers, discussions you've had here or in person; your experiences;
please write them up--copy and paste works; I can smooth them into an
article--and email them to me. Thanks.
Jacquelyn Kuehn
pennsacreskitchen.net
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> Jim, I'll see whether I can find the correspondence with the fellow NAFEX
> member who sent me some seeds. I gave them to a nephew in Kansas but I do
> not think he had any luck getting any trees started. -- Sam
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> Who sells Siberian C root stock, please
>
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> Sam, you know anyone distributing the red-leafed seedling peach. I
> have a seedling peach grove with a lot of Siberian C and Iowa Indian
> white peaches in the ground. I'd love add the red-leafed peach to the
> planting.
>
> On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 7:11 AM, Hank Parker <hwpark@kahres.org> wrote:
>> I have two Siberian peach trees that are white fleshed and late/Sept
>> producing. They have been hardy for some years in zone 4.
>>
>> Hank Parker
>> Maple syrup makers never die,
>> They just evaporate!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Mar 12, 2017, at 7:59 AM, Sam Brungardt <sam739is@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm sure they cannot handle zone 4 cold. Should do very well in Zone 5,
>>> though. At least one of our members has redleaf-peaches. another
>>> seed-propagated landrace that is also very tough and prolific. When I
>>> was a kid growing up in Kansas, I had two trees that were watered with
>>> runoff from a chicken house. Very small, flavorful, white-fleshed
>>> peaches. Mom used to make jam from them. She also pickled them to serve
>>> with holiday meals, particularly ham and muscovy duck. Delicious! -- Sam
>>> Brungardt, St. Paul, MN (USDA Hardiness Zone 4b)
>>>
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>>> Yea, these were also known as the Mission peach. I'm doubting they
>>> could handle zone 4.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 4:43 PM, mIEKAL aND <qazingulaza@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> I wonder if they are hardy to the upper midwest.
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Time will tell if my perception is correct, but that is how it has seemed in
reviewing 2016.
Two of three British apples were again found wanting: one cannot hold its
fruit in a low humidity heat wave and the other needs far better soil than I
can afford to provide anytime soon. So I cut extra scions of D'Arcy Spice and
Sturmer Pippin and included them in the packages sent to those who swapped
with me this past winter. They will be top-worked to American apples this
spring: Harrison and Keepsake.
I had sent too many scions of the third British apple, Bardsey, in winter
'15-'16, so got only a single, huge apple from this young tree. Although
spring came 2-3 weeks earlier than usual, the fruit still didn't come loose
for picking until the end of September, just as previously. Bardsey is a
light fruit: light lemon scent, light acid (in this environment) and light
weight. Although over 3 inches high and wide it weighed just over 9 ounces,
despite its juiciness. I cut only two scions this time around and hope for
more fruit this year.
Winekist surprised me by blooming in its third leaf, about mid-late bloom,
too. Since the bloom was far later than expected, I left two fruits on it to
clinch ID. Sure enough, it's Winekist. Two inch by two, red like a beet
inside, 12 Brix. Both it and Redfield look as though they will have drooping
habit as trees, and the places I had hoped to put them will cause problems.
Two neighbors have agreed to allow me to plant and prune for them, and they
get each a lovely apple tree without wormy fruit!
Neil Crowley told me he has good crops from Claygate Pearmain, something he
had sent me previously. The graft I had intended to use failed, but two back
up grafts onto larger stock, Bud118, both callused. With his encouragement I
now plan to plant both whips of Claygate where once the red fleshed apples
were intended to go. Claygate, I understand, has an upright habit, which will
be handy in the narrow area I want to fill.
The two top-working projects were the only grafts I expected to make for this
yard, until the host of scions came by way of people asking for D'Arcy Spice
(try it!) and other apples I have started. It appears this may be the year
when the yard finally takes shape, with a majority of American apples. I will
(God willing) graft every spare root stock left over from previous attempts.
Next fall might reveal a very different fruit profile than what was imagined
before this year.
Ben Sarek black currant again had tremendous aphid damage, reducing its crop
to a third of any others (Ben More, Westwick, Orphan - no name or parentage.)
I tore it out and asked for some in swapping scions. Black September came
(thank you Kirk) and two hard wood cuttings are in the ground, rooting at
this writing.
I learned something about using black currants: In making jam I did not
remove all the woody calyxes, which can take hours. (Someone said it was
possible to roll them between palms to remove them. Not in this climate,
apparently.) I put currants in the blender with nearly a half cup of water
and blended them. Then proceeded to cook jam. It worked well!
North Star cherry yielded its first crop, about 2 cups pitted. We made a pie
with those and an equal amount of Montmorency, picked elsewhere. Wow, bright
color and flavor: the Morello parent shines in North Star for color and
taste, but the other parent shifted its harvest earlier by about 3 weeks.
Only two maggots inside of two cups pitted. Win, win, win.
Dave Liezen
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> Jim, I'll see whether I can find the correspondence with the fellow NAFEX
> member who sent me some seeds. I gave them to a nephew in Kansas but I do
> not think he had any luck getting any trees started. -- Sam
>
>
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> From: nafex <nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org> on behalf of Jim Fruth
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> Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 8:48 PM
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> Subject: Re: [nafex] "Indian peach" seeds
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> Who sells Siberian C root stock, please
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 8:36 AM
> To: mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters
> Subject: Re: [nafex] "Indian peach" seeds
>
> Sam, you know anyone distributing the red-leafed seedling peach. I
> have a seedling peach grove with a lot of Siberian C and Iowa Indian
> white peaches in the ground. I'd love add the red-leafed peach to the
> planting.
>
> On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 7:11 AM, Hank Parker <hwpark@kahres.org> wrote:
>> I have two Siberian peach trees that are white fleshed and late/Sept
>> producing. They have been hardy for some years in zone 4.
>>
>> Hank Parker
>> Maple syrup makers never die,
>> They just evaporate!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Mar 12, 2017, at 7:59 AM, Sam Brungardt <sam739is@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm sure they cannot handle zone 4 cold. Should do very well in Zone 5,
>>> though. At least one of our members has redleaf-peaches. another
>>> seed-propagated landrace that is also very tough and prolific. When I
>>> was a kid growing up in Kansas, I had two trees that were watered with
>>> runoff from a chicken house. Very small, flavorful, white-fleshed
>>> peaches. Mom used to make jam from them. She also pickled them to serve
>>> with holiday meals, particularly ham and muscovy duck. Delicious! -- Sam
>>> Brungardt, St. Paul, MN (USDA Hardiness Zone 4b)
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: nafex <nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org> on behalf of mIEKAL aND
>>> <qazingulaza@gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 4:45 PM
>>> To: Henry; mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit
>>> Experimenters
>>> Subject: Re: [nafex] "Indian peach" seeds
>>>
>>> Yea, these were also known as the Mission peach. I'm doubting they
>>> could handle zone 4.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 4:43 PM, mIEKAL aND <qazingulaza@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> I wonder if they are hardy to the upper midwest.
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