> For my part, I didn't have the time and
> involvment to get into all of this, so I made a
> deal with the insects - I told them if they leave
> me enough fruit to eat, I won't have to kill
> them. Believe it or not, it works. And the fruit
> that is damaged by the insects can still be used for cider.
>Claude Jolicoeur
And I should point out that Claude makes the BEST cider!