To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] size of mature Kaki persimmon and Japanese raisin; nafex Digest, Vol 106, Issue 19
Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 13:30:34 -0800
Hovenia dulcis information has been collected from various sources. So
cannot say.
Kaki persimmon is not a very important commercial fruit crop here. It was
introduced at a few places. In my state we have only 4-5 varieties, which
all astringent. No rootstock trial has ever been conducted here on this
fruit. In fact, very few people even know persimmon in India. I do not
think that this fruit will assume commercial importance here.
I was once in Japan for 7 weeks on a lecture fellowship. Only then I
learned how important was it as a fruit.
The size of D. lotus may vary from tree to tree in the hills as each
location is different from suitability point of view. This fruit is not
cultivated.
Dr. Chiranjit Parmar
186/3 Jail Road
Mandi HP 175001, India
01905-222810; 094181-81323
www.fruitipedia.com
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From: Steven Covacci
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 1:27 PM
To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] size of mature Kaki persimmon and Japanese raisin;
nafex Digest, Vol 106, Issue 19
Hi Dr. Chiranjit,
Don't you find that non-astringent Kaki graft-reject eventually? Also, I
just saw a 30' tall Diospyros lotus - and ate the fruit. So, do you think
that Kaki slightly dwarfs the lotus persimmon. Maybe I over-estimated the
lotus tree's height that I saw. The fruit was like that of a low-sugar D.
virginiana persimmon.
Also, the website you directed to me indicates that Hovenia dulcis
(Japanese-raisin tree) gets to be a large 60' tree; however, most of the
material online seems to indicate that it gets to be almost 30' in
cultivation. Theoretically, D. lotus can get as high as 60 to 90' in it's
native habitat; yet, in the USA and UK, it never exceeds 30'. However,
Hovenia dulcis does, sometimes, get as high - there is only one or two
examples that I know of it getting super-large.