To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] seaberry source?
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 20:06:52 -0600
My guess is that seaberry would not be a good
prospect for grafting because of the suckering. Perhaps not all varieties
sucker, but ours sure did, all over the place. hector black zone 6
middle tn
I always assumed the One Green World plants were grafted, in
which case the suckers would be generic seedling stock. If they are
own-rooted how are their plants propagated?
Good to get a confirmation about die back, I would tend to guess
drought conditions over too much water also.
Dale, at Carandale Farms south of Madison, has a fairly good collection
of seaberry cultivars that are about 8-9 years old. I've been meaning to
check out his fruit selections. He's actually been selling the
berries at Dane County farmer's market for the last few years as well as doing
educational work with the people who come by & have never heard of
them.
I've purchased 4 different varieties as
single plants over the last 10 years, the most recent about 2 years
ago. The most recent one has yet to sucker, but the other 3 have
produced lots of plants (a male and two different females). I
dig and pot up suckers each year and have given some to members of
this list (and owe one to someone yet). Others are used to
increase my stock. Perhaps there is something about your care
that is discouraging suckering or your varieties don't sucker.
If you search/google "seaberry sucker" you will find many
references to this habit, which is regarded as a liability by
some.
Like you, however, I've experienced die back of some of
my plants. I think it is due to insufficient water during the
heat of summer.
My initial female came from Indiana
Berry and its fruit is significantly inferior to the more recent,
fruiting named female variety I received from OGW.
I have Leikora, whatever cultivar Bear Creek used to
distribute, & seedlings grown from seed. Frankly I can't
tell the difference in fruit, based on size or sweetness or
astringency. When I was in Romania, there were great wild
strains there, in literally every farmer's market, but of course, I
wasn't able to bring any of the material back with me. More
than half of my planting has died back in various summers, I'm
thinking either from too wet or from too dry.
& I've never had a single plant sucker (I wish) in the 20
years they've been in the ground. There's maybe 7 or 8 that
are still alive.
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