--- On Wed, 12/3/08, rayzentz AT aim.com <rayzentz AT aim.com> wrote:
> I've been following this thread quietly, but I have to
> say I disagree with you on this. I can't control either.
> I have been in situations where I was "forced", by
> a bully, to defend myself. Some may say that I was never
> forced, rather I made a choice to fight back, but those
> people would be idiots. There is a point where one must
> respond to evil, or through lack of action, be a participant
> in the evil itself.
I accept the adage "violence when there is any other choice is wrong.
Violence when there is no other choice is survival".
Van Dell