Dear John,
Concerning your first question (Ec 3:18.11...).
The real base form is not HEM but H"M (Ex 5:7.10) (with tsere): base form.
But whenever this H"M becomes suffix, then the tsere turns to segol, HEM. Look here: www.oham.net/out/S-d/S-d0154.html <http://www.oham.net/out/S-d/S-d0154.html> and the four that follow it and/or www.oham.net/out/S-t/S-t0240.html <http://www.oham.net/out/S-t/S-t0240.html> and the following.
What, then, in Ec 3:18 (whre it is a base)?
When a base word with tsere is followed by maqaf (= hyphen), then the tsere turns to segol: look at paragraph B, item 2 in www.oham.net/out/N-d/N-d07.html <http://www.oham.net/out/N-d/N-d07.html>.
Remark: In HOWN and NF) you're mixing Hebrew and Aramaic: are you aware thereof? To my sense this is not legitimate.
If you agree, I'm ready to give an answer to your second question.
Pere Porta
Barcelona, Catalonia Spain
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 9:00 AM, Brak <Brak AT neo.rr.com <mailto:Brak AT neo.rr.com>> wrote:
There are a few "word parts" that ares ambiguous (at least at first
look) as too if the part is a base or a suffix.
To define my terms here is an example:
Word: <WI/YR"$W./KF>
This is made up of three "word parts":
Prefix: <WI>
Base: <YR"$W.>
Suffix <KF>
There are 9 word parts that can go be either a base or a suffix, and I
am trying to figure the logic behind when it is one or the other:
<H"N>
B: gn3:22,4 (Pi) [/in 86 other places/] / da2:5,9 (Pc_D) [/in 15 other
places/]
S: ek16:47,10 (S3fp) [/in 2 other places/]
<H"N.FH>
B: 2s4:6,1 (pi3fp) [/in 47 other places/] / gn15:16,4 (Pd) [/in 45
other
places/]
S: is34:16,7 (S3fp) [/in 2 other places/]
<HEM>
B: ec3:18,11 (pi3mp) [/only //occurrence/]
S: gn2:25,2 (S3mp) [/in 1923 other places/] / ex30:12,7 (S3mpx)
[/in 119
other places/]
<HEN>
B: nu23:9,7 (Pi) [/in 11 other places/]
S: gn19:33,3 (S3fp) [/in 113 other places/] / 2k19:26,1 (S3fpx) [/in 3
other places/]
<HF)>
B: da3:25,3 (Pi) [/only occurrence/]
S: ek41:15,11 (S3fs) [/only occurrence/]
<HIY>
B: ek2:10,12 (ncmsa) [/only //occurrence/]
S: ps116:12,5 (S3ms) [/in 64 other places/] / da4:20,12 (S3msx) [/in 3
other places/]
<HOWN>
B: ek27:12,5 (ncmsa) [/in 19 other places/] / ek27:27,1 (ncmsc) [/in 4
other places/]
S: da2:44,1 (S3mp) [/in 13 other places/]
<NF)>
B: gn12:11,11 (Pi) [/in 331 other places/] / ex12:9,4 (amsa) [/only
//occurrence/]
S: er4:12,10 (S1cp) [/in 2 other places/] / er5:11,3 (S1cpx) [/only
//occurrence/]
<NIY>
B: ek27:32,3 (ncmsc) [/only //occurrence/]
S: gn44:15,16 (S1cs) [/in 16 other places/] / gn20:11,11 (S1csx) [/in
213 other places/]
I will start out with two questions:
My first question is with the third one listed <HEM>:
<HEM> as a Base:
ec3:18,11 | $:/HEM | P $E@Pr / B H"M@pi3mp
<HEM> as a Suffix:
gn3:7,3 | $:N"Y/HEM | B $:NAYIM@ucmdc / S
HM@S3mp
gn6:13,13 | MI/P.:N"Y/HEM | P MIN@Pp_S / B
P.FNEH@ncmpc / S HM@S3mp
gn8:19,11 | L:/MI$:P.:XO^T"Y/HEM | P L:@Pp_S / B
MI$:P.FXFH@ncfpc / S HM@S3mp
ec3:18,11 is the only time the word part <HEM> is a base, as pi3mp -
every other 2044 places its a suffix as S3mp.
Can anyone explain why?
My second question is with the second one listed <H"N.FH>:
<H"N.FH> as a Base:
lv4:2,18 <M"/H"^N.FH> | P MIN@Pp_S / B H"N.FH@pi3fp
je5:6,15 <M"/H"^N.FH> | P MIN@Pp_S / B H"N.FH@pi3fp
ps34:21,5 <M"/H"^N.FH> | P MIN@Pp_S / B H"N.FH@pi3fp
2s4:6,1 | W:/H"N.FH | P W:@Pc_S / B
H"N.FH@pi3fp
<H"N.FH> as a Suffix:
is34:16,7 <M"/H"N.FH> | P MIN@Pp_S / S HNH@S3fp
ek16:51,9 <M"/H"N.FH> | P MIN@Pp_S / S HNH@S3fp
1c21:10,16 <M"/H"N.FH> | P MIN@Pp_S / S HNH@S3fp
The reason I have 2s4:6,1 listed is because it is in the base
position,
but without an accent.
So how does one determine which it is?
B"H
John Steven
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