[Steve Miller] As Peter already pointed out, Jesus knew sickness because He
spent time with the sick and bore their sicknesses. Also, the word for
sickness can refer to physical wounds from beating (Prov23:35;2Kg 1:2;8:29).
[Steve Miller] If so, then the nations are the ones speaking. (Some problems
with that.) But then you say later that Isaiah is the one speaking.
[Steve Miller] "clear indicator" & "clear ref"???? "land of the living" is
used many times in Tanach, and it means just what it says. It never means the land of Israel. To be cut off
from the land of the living is to die.
[Steve Miller] I agree that the speaker is Isaiah in 53:1-10, mostly speaking
on behalf of Israel in general, but in 53:1 on behalf of the prophets. This
is the straightforward way to understand it, and I don't know of any problem
with it. But you can't have it both ways. If you say that this chapter is the
gentile nations' remorse over Israel, then you must have the speaker be the
gentile nations and not Isaiah.
The gentile kings cannot be the speaker. In the whole Tanach, since Israel became a nation, have
the gentiles ever said anything intelligent about God? And here they know the "arm of the
Lord"? They know that it "pleased Jehovah to bruise him."?
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