Hi b-hebrew,
Rolf Furuli wrote:
The two posts of Schmuel regarding the NWT and the New Testament are outside
the scope of this list.
That is for the list moderator to determine. We are talking about using a possible
Biblical Hebrew pronunciation in the New Testament.
Also a claim was made about the NWT or the NIV being consistent in translation.
My comments have shown that the whole concept was incorrect vis a vis the NWT.
If my comments are off-topic, then the claim of NWT consistency should be off-topic.
Rolf
... when a claim that is outright false is made, it is the duty of one having a knowledge to speak up.
Schmuel
True, but my claim was clearly true.
Rolf
...three factors ... 1) quotes from the OT, 2) New Testaments in Hebrew using Jehovah, and 3) the context. In *all* cases where Jehovah is found in the NWT New Testament one or more of these factors are behind the choice. Theology *must* be an important factor in Bible translation.
Schmuel
Essentially you are conceding my point.
First, let's be clear,
(1) is understood, but not relevant to the great majority of verses,
(2) is essentially irrelevant, as what difference does a c1500-1800 Greek to Hebrew
translator's decision have to do about the essentially impossible JW conjectures
about the original written-in-Greek autographs .. no significance there at all.
Even if these late Greek to Hebrew translations support the selectivity of the NWT
(doubtful) it simply has no relevance, as it is apples and oranges.
Then we go to the critical one (3).
"Context" in Jehovah Witness theology means that the idea that Jehovah manifest
as the Lord Jesus Christ is not acceptable. Therefore that is the determining factor
in not putting Jehovah into those types of verses that I indicated, while putting
Jehovah into those verses that are helpful for the distinction.
Grammatically and linguistically there is simply no way to consider the selection
omissions as guided by anything other than Jehovah Witness doctrine, masked
as "context".
In terms of the Greek language text the Jehovah translation decisions are inconsistent.
In terms of matching the Jehovah Witness doctrine, you could say they are consistent,
in that they are a deliberate translation tampering.
Shalom,
Steven Avery
Queens, NY
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Messianic_Apologetic
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