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: Re: [b-hebrew] Re: PS /g/
Date
: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 21:26:05 -0500
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 21:01:45 -0500 "Karl Randolph" <kwrandolph AT email.com>
writes:
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Peter:
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I am not a scholar of Greek language, New Testament nor NT textual
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criticism, never was, and so I leave the argument to those who are
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scholars. Harstad and his school claim that the "Coptic" (referring
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to Egypt, not language) rescension of Greek manuscripts is not the
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oldest line, and I, beyond reporting about it, will leave the
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discussion alone.
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However, I now think that the soft sounds of BGD KPT letters in
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Hebrew are a late development, not original. And to see that at
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least in the Byzantine tradition of NT manuscripts that some of the
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transcribed names had the hard sound where later Hebrew had soft
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gives some (weak) support to my theory. That the texts that Nestlé
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is based on have a later pronunciation could very well be a result
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that they were produced in a millieu where there were many Jews
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(e.g. Alexandria) who could keep the scribes up to date on the
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latest Hebrew pronunciations.
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The claim that the soft and hard sounds were original and peacefully
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coexisted over the millennia until the Masorites codified them with
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their points, does not match known patterns of language shift and
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development. (Don't anybody say that I claim that the Masorites
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invented anything other than the points themselves. They did not
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invent the pronunciations they codified.) Languages both lose and
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gain phones and phonemes, and I don't see that Hebrew should be an
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exception.
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Karl W. Randolph.
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Karl,
I don't know of a "Harstad", but there was a Farstad. His lobbying for
the Byz text hasn't found much acceptance in most circles of NT studies.
I wouldn't rely on him.
george
gfsomsel
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Peter Kirk, 11/17/2004
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Karl Randolph, 11/17/2004
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MarianneLuban, 11/17/2004
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MarianneLuban, 11/17/2004
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Karl Randolph, 11/17/2004
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Peter Kirk, 11/17/2004
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Karl Randolph, 11/17/2004
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Peter Kirk, 11/18/2004
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gfsomsel, 11/17/2004
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Karl Randolph, 11/17/2004
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gfsomsel, 11/17/2004
[b-hebrew] Byzantine Text
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Kevin Riley, 11/17/2004
Re: [b-hebrew] Byzantine Text
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Peter Kirk, 11/18/2004
Re: [b-hebrew] Byzantine Text
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Peter Kirk, 11/18/2004
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MarianneLuban, 11/17/2004
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gfsomsel, 11/18/2004
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Yitzhak Sapir, 11/19/2004
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Peter Kirk, 11/19/2004
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MarianneLuban, 11/19/2004
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