On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 00:20:39 +0200 "Yigal Levin" <leviny1 AT mail.biu.ac.il>
writes:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: George F. Somsel
>
> At the risk of sounding like one of those I previously mentioned
> who will attempt at any cost to avoid an embarassing problem with a
> text, this might be explicable. "The sons of Ephraim:" is a caption
> to the list which does not necessarily say anything as to the time
> in which Ephraim might have lived. The problem comes in regard to
> Ephraim's mourning and begetting other children though, in this
> regard, it still says nothing regarding the time-frame. The way in
> which the Chronicler has written this leaves an impression that it
> is post-conquest due to the structure. David and his progeny are
> inserted in chapter 3, but it is not necessarily the case that the
> whole is post-conquest. It would seem that he follows one line for
> a time then moves on to another giving the ultimate residence of the
> descendants. The question is "When was the death of Ephraim's sons
> and the subsequent birth of his "second family"? It could have been
> conceived of as taking place before going down into Egypt just as
> the incident of Judah and Tamar in Gen 38 before the descent into
> Egypt in Gen 39.
>
>
>
> Except, George, that Ephraim was born to Joseph in Egypt, and
> never lived in Canaan. So the story "could not" have taken place
> before the children of Israel went down to Egypt.
>
> Yigal
>
> _______________________________________________
Oops, you're right. I had forgotten about that. I was simply thinking
of the sons of Jacob, but Ephraim and Manasseh were Joseph tribes. Well,
perhaps we do have evidence for a minimalist view in a different
tradition.