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  • From: "Mary and Robin Reed" <appcraft@windstream.net>
  • To: "Seed Keepers" <seedkeepers@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [Seed Keepers] Fwd: Re: [permaculture] Viewing SSE and Seeds ofChange changes
  • Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 13:26:02 -0500

Kevin
Do you know what growing zone you are in. I am in Eastern Kentucky, USA growing zone 6
Robin
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Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 5:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Seed Keepers] Fwd: Re: [permaculture] Viewing SSE and Seeds ofChange changes

Hi Lawrence im in the S/E of Ireland and am interested in var of Fava minor or equina anyone out there have any ideas! I have Martock bean and an unknown var from syria! They were grown all over europe in the middle ages for animal and human food. I grew 30 seeds and got back 3 kilos of seed so there is a good return! If anybody has any ideas? Thanks.. Kevin Dudley
 

From: appcraft@windstream.net
To: seedkeepers@lists.ibiblio.org
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 09:39:48 -0500
Subject: Re: [Seed Keepers] Fwd: Re: [permaculture] Viewing SSE and Seeds ofChange changes

Lawrence
Where would I go to find seeds regional for KY?
Robin Reed
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Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 10:24 PM
Subject: [Seed Keepers] Fwd: Re: [permaculture] Viewing SSE and Seeds ofChange changes



-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [permaculture] Viewing SSE and Seeds of Change changes
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 11:31:00 -0700
From: Jason Gerhardt <jasongerhardt@gmail.com>
Reply-To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org

Seeds of Change has always had problems of one sort or another.  As a former
grower who frequently bought seeds from them and grew seeds for them, I can
honestly say that their operation was always on the edge.  SoC has brilliant
marketing and obvious cash to put into it, but they never quite managed
fulfillment and their seed growers that well.  The best part of SoC has
always been its growers network.  Though the front line SoC company may go
in a different direction (good, bad who can tell) the growers are still out
there doing their good work.  What is happening in the seed world is a
re-bioregionalization as I see it, and that is a really good thing.  A goal
should be to get to a place where we don't need front line companies like
Seeds of Change, but instead can buy seeds that are grown regionally and
locally with all the benefits of climatic adaptation.

Many SoC growers and breeders have their own seed companies up and running
in their specific bioregions and on the net.  Whenever possible I buy from
them first.  Check it out:  Wild Garden Seeds, Oregon; Siskiyou Seeds,
Southern Oregon; Uprising Seeds, Washington; Abbo-Regional Seeds, Colorado;
Arid Lands Seed Cache, New Mexico; etc.  The Eastern half of the country has
its own seed network of which I am less familiar.

The only way to fight against the industrialization and corporate take over
of our seeds is to grow them ourselves and develop local/regional seed
growers networks.

The safest place for our seeds is in our own hands and lands!

Jason
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