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  • From: Lawrence London <lfljvenaura@gmail.com>
  • To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Cc: Leo Bakx <leobakx@gmail.com>, Alan Enzo <ecoenzo@gmail.com>, economiamaissolidaria@googlegroups.com, meio-ambiente-e-permacultura-acampada@googlegroups.com, pdcesporles2011@googlegroups.com, transicao-portugal@googlegroups.com, edu-permacultura-pt@googlegroups.com, europeanpermaculturenetwork <europeanpermaculturenetwork@googlegroups.com>, ecolivingportugal@googlegroups.com, pdc-meco-2012@googlegroups.com
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] [eu-pc-network] Re: Schooling the World - THE WHITE MAN'S LAST BURDEN -
  • Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 21:29:34 -0400

Use the WWWeb and self-educate. You will find resources hard to believe;
vast encyclopedia.
Torrents offer an incredible amount of information. Avoid the politics and
just get down to work, stay focused.

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 7:36 PM, Steve Hart <stevenlawrencehart@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Yes Leo..feel your empathy. Like you having done a conventional university
> teachers degree and taught in the conventional system we both see the many
> gaps. We also see the "drop outs" or that 60% which did not fit that
> conventional mould. We also see many other ways of teaching for the many
> different intellects that we as a species makes up. I do feel however that
> our original PDC and APDCs are still our cornerstone to evolve internships
> and apprenticeships. I also feel that we could develop a lot more in our
> styles of Masters and Doctorates. One interest I have is of seeing how we
> can appeal to the multitudes of people that attend universities the world
> over. Then at the other end our children. Of course is was great to be part
> of the evolution of CHIPS. And, observing the evolution of the layers pre
> PDC which Robyn Francis et al instigated and drove . Lets keep debating and
> evolving. Steve Hart
>
> On 13 July 2017 at 01:55, <leobakx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Thank Joao for sharing!
> >
> > Carol Black is very eloquent expressing the issues and distinctions of
> > school and learning. A message we should all take into our hart, minds
> and
> > hands, and into our daily practice as permaculture practitioners and
> > teachers.
> >
> > The issues with learning and schooling are obviously now new though.
> > Throughout the ages of empire (since the invention of location bound
> > agriculture) there are voices questioning the wisdom of formal schools
> and
> > their often undeclared agenda of perpetuating hierarchy and inequality.
> >
> > If there is anything we learn from history it is that we learn very
> little
> > of it.
> >
> > Schools are very effective though. Let's resist the temptation. Let's
> > leave the schooling to fish ;-)
> >
> > For my part, I've dropped the concept of offering structured courses with
> > goals, tests and grades. I run a couple of basic community garden
> projects
> > and people of all ages are welcome to join in and learn from their
> > experience of gardening, caring for earth and people, sharing in the
> > abundance with style. For fun and for free.
> >
> > So *out* with the PDC and *in* with the internships and apprenticeships?
> > Learning communities? *Mobile* learning communities in a ubiquitous
> > learn(ing)scape?
> >
> > l:-)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 10:44:03 AM UTC+2, joao pedro goncalves
> wrote:
> >>
> >> https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=schooling+the+world
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> http://carolblack.org/schooling-the-world/
> >>
> >> "AN IMPECCABLE AND GORGEOUS PIECE OF WORK... IT SHOOK ME AWAKE."
> >> ~JOANNA MACYFor more information please visit schoolingtheworld.orgFor a
> >> limited time, the entire film is available below.
> >>
> >> http://carolblack.org/schooling-the-world/
> >>
> >>
> >>
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