permaculture

[Scott Pittman <scott@permaculture.org>]

When I came up with the idea of "the elephant in the room" it was 
obvious to me that we were not talking about the invisible structures 
that control the planet.  My first session in IPC Brazil was titled "Is 
permaculture capitalism and oxymoron".

Since that time I have presented about maintaining the integrity of 
permaculture by insisting on covering all of the concerns of 
permaculture as they are indicated in the permaculture ethics.

While Wes whinges about it not being relevant to less developed 
countries I think that it is the opposite.  It is the third world that 
now being looted by the capitalism of the developed world. It is ill 
informed teachers who are certifying students in a truncated PDC that is 
little more than a organic gardening class with little to no mention of 
the invisible structures or ethics and principals.  In the years I 
taught with Bill Mollison he insisted on teaching the full range of 
permaculture concerns saying "there is no need to dumb down this course 
since many in the rural sector already know more that we do about 
conditions in their own ecosystem.'

Permaculture is in danger of becoming another form of imperialistic 
thought that, like the missionaries, comes to save you from your own 
lack of enlightenment.  I find this shockingly denigrating to the object 
of this posture and that it leaves the audience with a view of 
permaculture that not that different from the local USDA agricultural 
evangelism.

Scott


On 4/23/2017 4:38 PM, Jason Gerhardt wrote:
> So what do we do now? That's what I'm left with, a question. "Be original
> and create a new future." That's one of the best answers I've heard.
>
> On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 4:07 PM Lawrence London <lfljvenaura@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 11:31 AM, Jason Gerhardt <jasongerhardt@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I see economic imperialism as a take over by economic force for economic
> > > aims. To be imperialist there has to be one nation or kingdom taking over
> > > another. Each life form, each ecosystem is a kingdom. Each human, each
> > > community, a free kingdom. Economic imperialism therefore, is the take
> > over
> > > of ones life and community by business and monetary interests. Life
> > becomes
> > > about those things while under the control of economic imperialists.
> > > Permaculture becomes about those things when manipulated by those
> > knowingly
> > > or unknowingly operating with the paradigm of economic imperialism.
> > You nailed it. You should have been around during the sixties and
> > seventies. Logically the Permaculture discipline and movement started then.
> >
> > > You can't free yourself with the tools provided to you by the master.
> > Well said.
> > Sovereignty and independence for Permaculture pessants! Be original and
> > create a new future.
> > During the sixties everything was new and everyone's imput and viewpoint
> > was valued.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Best regards, Scott Pittman Director Permaculture Institute