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  • From: Michael Pilarski <friendsofthetrees@yahoo.com>
  • To: "permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org" <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: [permaculture] Fw: ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM
  • Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2017 04:25:10 +0000 (UTC)

  Michael "Skeeter" Pilarski
Permaculture - Wildcrafting - Medicinal Herbs & Seeds

Friends of the Trees SocietyPO Box 1133Port Hadlock, WA
98339friendsofthetrees@yahoo.com(360-643-9178Sign up for our newsletter at
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On Friday, April 21, 2017 9:23 PM, Michael Pilarski
<friendsofthetrees@yahoo.com> wrote:


Dear friends,

I haven't attended the IPC for some time, but the three that I did attend
(2nd, 3rd and 4th) were all wonderful events, full of great people working
for the Earth.  We put our heads together to network for the greater good. 

The elephant in the room is western imperialism and its destruction of the
Earth and it's cultures.  We need to work together to resist, and to build
alternatives, rather than fight among ourselves. 

This is important work and we need to get beyond our personality
disagreements. I think this is more broadly realized by permaculturists in
the non-westernized countries. They should be in large numbers in India. I
pray for a productive event.
  Michael "Skeeter" Pilarski
Permaculture - Wildcrafting - Medicinal Herbs & Seeds

Friends of the Trees SocietyPO Box 1133Port Hadlock, WA
98339friendsofthetrees@yahoo.com(360-643-9178Sign up for our newsletter at
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On Friday, April 21, 2017 3:23 PM, Scott Pittman <scott@permaculture.org>
wrote:


You probable think that for one of two reasons: one, you are an
elephant, two, you don't understand what permaculture is.

The IPC could use a lot less air and more substance but most people
think it is a show and tell moment leading to a big party. It is those
with the dog and pony show displays that should be sucking air.

Scott

On 4/21/2017 1:26 AM, lakinroe@silcom.com wrote:
> hi
>  i think there are too many elephants in the room this one is getting old
>and it tends to be a first world problem and sucks out alot of air at the IPC
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Steve Hart <stevenlawrencehart@gmail.com>
> To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>,
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> Sent: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 18:12:37 -0700 (PDT)
> Subject: [permaculture] ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM
>
> GREETINGS ALL
>
> Seeing we are nearing another international convergence / conference we do
> have an opportunity to air all views and opinions, gripes and any other
> concern during the session "Elephant in the Room"
>
> Hopefully Scott Pittman will join us at IPC13 in India and facilitate this
> wkshp.
>
> I thought it would be great to warm this subject up by inviting all to
> consider creating an agenda or even lodging before-hand any such item that
> could be debated / aired in this wkshp
>
> So I do look fwd to any feedback to make this wkshp stimulating and
> positive with outcomes to assist moving all forward over any topic
>
>
> ​Best regards​
>
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On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 12:25 AM, Michael Pilarski via permaculture <
permaculture@mailman1.ibiblio.org> wrote:

> The elephant in the room is western imperialism and its destruction of the
> Earth and it's cultures.


The elephant in the room is western, U.S., Russian, Chinese and European
imperialism and its destruction of the Earth and it's cultures.
Get it right. They are all guilty, especially Russia and China, Goldman
Sucks , Bayer, Monsanto and other polluting ag corporations (Germany).
Did you read what I posted about the Seed Savers Exchange and its founder
Kent Whealy or does that not count?


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