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  • From: Steve Hart <stevenlawrencehart@gmail.com>
  • To: Tim <t.shanks@ymail.com>
  • Cc: DONKA RADEVA <donnybg@yahoo.com>, Permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>, europeanpermaculturenetwork <europeanpermaculturenetwork@googlegroups.com>
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] PhD in Permaculture Economics..NEW SCHOOL ?
  • Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 10:15:50 +1300

Hi Tim..which idea do you support ? The development formation of a new
school ? I do too, absolutely !

However fraught with dangers of diversion and infiltration it may be, we
still need to develop it. As a piece of black humour we could have the very
first meeting / conference at a facility in Switzerland called Mont
Pelerin. I assume you are familiar with The Mont Pelerin Society" its
beginning, evolution and history ?

https://www.montpelerin.org/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mont_P%C3%A8lerin

Or we could invite it in association with IPC13 in India,
http://ipcindia2017.org/

Hear from you soon to further develop the idea

Steve Hart

On 3 February 2017 at 20:16, Tim <t.shanks@ymail.com> wrote:

> Hi Steve,
>
> Sounds like a very interesting idea which I fully support.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Tim
>
>
> On 25/01/2017 03:11, Steve Hart wrote:
>
> Hi Donny..an interesting paper which opens the exploration. Perhaps the
> question goes back to the development of the world of Economics. Developed
> from Rothschilds circa 14th century, pursuit of building the industry of
> usery and slavery to maintain usery. Today the entire world are still
> slaves to this economic policy which controls every aspect of todays
> world. We have been conditioned to it through generations. Perhaps 1%
> live as the kings of the slavery. It has been specifically designed this
> way for that purpose. The only way we will evolve is to redesign the usery
> / consumerist / growth / entropic paradigm or policy. It must change to
> conservation / fair share / ecological sustainability. Perhaps your "New
> Agriculturalists" sub-consciously seek the new paradigm and are very slowly
> emerging into it. There is also a warm-fuzzy growth in "Commons" and
> "Peasantry" perhaps through similar sub-conscious fervour. None of which
> comes from a planned or designed framework or school. This book is one of a
> new pattern that begins working in this area
>
> "Growing A New Economy: Beyond Crisis Capitalism & Environmental
> Destruction
> ​"​
>
> Roar Bjonnes and Caroline Hargreaves
>
> InnerWorld Publications San Germán, Puerto Rico www.
> innerworldpublications.com
>
>
> But we still have a long way to go. Perhaps we could open a new school to
> evolve it further I'm sure Tim Shanks would support such.
>
>
> Keep me posted on your next layer of papers
>
>
> Warm regards
>
>
> Steve Hart
>
> On 24 January 2017 at 11:35, DONKA RADEVA <donnybg@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Steve,
>>
>> I'm just at the end, have less than 2 weeks to deliver it in my
>> department and too much work now.
>> I'm ready with the research results and about to publish some of them but
>> still in Bulgarian language. Later on will do this in English.
>> I'm attaching one of my articles /in collaboration/ in English,
>> unpublished yet, and still on the theoretical part of the research and it
>> is around looking for an economic thought.
>>
>> Will let you know more in details later on, when less hectic around all
>> of these. :-)
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Donka
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 24, 2017 12:22 AM, Steve Hart <
>> stevenlawrencehart@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi Donny..howz the PhD going ? what stage are you at ? perhaps time to
>> release a few snippets on this network. Do not hesitate to ask for any
>> material through this network. Did you find any models you could use ? And
>> we await your arrival in NZ..Steve
>>
>> On 24 January 2017 at 10:57, DONKA RADEVA via permaculture <
>> permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org> wrote:
>>
>> Amazing project, Steve! Keep hard working and have much luck!
>> Best wishes to Martina and kids!
>> Donka
>>
>> On Monday, January 23, 2017 5:38 AM, Lawrence London <
>> lfljvenaura@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 8:00 PM, Steve Hart <
>> stevenlawrencehart@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > 13 acres...river alluvial...just spent 60 hrs on the 14 ton digger doing
>> > flood retention ponds and swales and flloodways. I'm presently looking
>> at a
>> >
>>
>> That is a great plan. I hope it all goes together well. I did something
>> similar with a large farm tractor and many implements and a medium sized
>> skid loader: as you said, retention ponds (3), swales/dams/berms/terraces
>> and the floodways directed at the ponds; excess rainfall carefully
>> channeled into the ponds from wherever on the property.it originates. I
>> will post some pix to illustrate the functionality of the overall system.
>>
>> small flood channel that meanders through the property to design a
>> > temperate zone chanampa...or real aquaponic system.
>> >
>>
>> Will there be eels in the chinampas? There is a big market for eels in
>> Japan.
>>
>> I would really like to do this also but my soil ios too permeable to hold
>> water long enough to support the garden component. I am lucky to keep
>> water
>> in the retention ponds.
>>
>>
>> > Put a few Sth Devon
>> > Bulls on to process pasture, manure one paddock, chooks have started
>> White
>> > Orpingtons. Have ordered a range of trees for next planting season
>> > including 800 apple pear plum and 200 avocado.
>> >
>>
>> Wonderful!
>>
>>
>> > My 4 yr old daughter
>> > conducted her first inpromtu garden tour the other day for a visitor and
>> > with her 2 yr old sister put together a salad for lunch consisting of 40
>> > different species.
>> >
>>
>> Now that is living right. Proper salads, the true staff of life! I plan on
>> a big salad and greens garden this coming Spring
>> and hopefully plenty of corn, tomatoes, peppers and onions.
>>
>>
>> > Also in the middle of converting an old cow shed /
>> > shearing shed into a dwelling..all off grid....a shed it will remain for
>> > authorities to dwell on...so its all go ...just printed off an AO size
>> >
>>
>> Right.
>>
>>
>> > survey plan to draw up the design for presentation purposes.
>> >
>>
>> I would like to see that.
>>
>>
>> > We will be
>> > reincarnating the original Permaculture Institute of NZ soon and may
>> seek
>> > collaboration with Larry n Scott et al for a branch of their Academy.
>> But,
>> > there is only 36 hrs in a day....all good..Steve Hart
>> >
>>
>> That must be done and the sooner the better. You have my recommendation.
>>
>> Onward!
>>
>> LL
>>
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>> Kia ora Ehoa
>>
>> [image: Picture]
>> *Steve Hart*
>> *Ecology Architect*
>> *Designer, Teacher, Builder of Ecologically Sustainable Resilient
>> Environments, through Urban Design, Architecture, Landscape Architecture
>> and Systems Ecology.​*
>> Skype: tipenemanawa
>> Phone: +64 220 75 62 11
>>
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>>
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>
>
> --
> Kia ora Ehoa
>
> [image: Picture]
> *Steve Hart*
> *Ecology Architect*
> *Designer, Teacher, Builder of Ecologically Sustainable Resilient
> Environments, through Urban Design, Architecture, Landscape Architecture
> and Systems Ecology.​*
> Skype: tipenemanawa
> Phone: +64 220 75 62 11
>
> Permaculture Global Design:
> www.permacultureglobaldesign.org
>
> The Permaculture International College
> www.permaculturecollege.eu
> https://permaculturecollege.academia.edu/SteveHart
>
> GAPPS The Global Alliance for Permaculture Partnerships and Solutions.
> www.permaculturepartnerships.com
>
>
>


--
Kia ora Ehoa

[image: Picture]
*Steve Hart*
*Ecology Architect*
*Designer, Teacher, Builder of Ecologically Sustainable Resilient
Environments, through Urban Design, Architecture, Landscape Architecture
and Systems Ecology.​*
Skype: tipenemanawa
Phone: +64 220 75 62 11

Permaculture Global Design:
www.permacultureglobaldesign.org

The Permaculture International College
www.permaculturecollege.eu
https://permaculturecollege.academia.edu/SteveHart

GAPPS The Global Alliance for Permaculture Partnerships and Solutions.
www.permaculturepartnerships.com




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