permaculture

[Bob Waldrop <bob@bobwaldrop.net>]

Today is the LAST DAY to comment on the proposed FDA regulations on the 
growing, harvesting and distribution of fresh produce.

DO NOT GO QUIETLY INTO THE DARKNESS OF THIS FDA ATTACK ON LOCAL FOOD 
SYSTEMS! Holler! Yell! Scream! Protest! See my email of last week for 
abbreviated comment instructions. Also a great recipe for smoky roasted 
red pepper gravy.

Also, contact your congresscritters and howl at them.

This is not a time for studied discourse.  It is a time for SCREAMING 
HOWLING MOBS BANGING ON THE DOORS OF GOVERNMENT!

http://myemail.constantcontact.com/Time-running-out-for-Food-Safey-comments--December-order-opening-early--Smoky-roasted-red-pepper-gravy-recipe-.html?soid=1105008617348&aid=1VOmdzdhL40

Bob Waldrop, Oklahoma City
http://www.ipermie.net  Permaculture your urban lifestyle & protect yourself 
from the four horsemen of the modern apocalypse: peak oil, climate instability, 
economic irrationality, and political criminality

On 11/22/2013 12:56 PM, Lawrence London wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Bob Waldrop <bob@bobwaldrop.net> wrote:
>
> > There will likely be a number of adaptations and this could be one of
> > them.  In fact, I'm thinking we should be collecting a set of "best
> > practices for adapting to screwball federal bureaucrats who have never
> > farmed and don't have a clue but are trying to close down local ag at
> > the behest of their big ag money people."
> You know what this is like? After WWII, Russia's imposition of pro Soviet
> Stalin/Lenin-type Communist totalitarian dictatorship (still that way in
> Belarus) governments
> in Eastern Bloc countries within the greater USSR. That was a version of
> what Stalin did in the Ukraine
> and especially to the non communist free enterprise affluent farming class
> called the Kulaks
> The Communists controlled the production and distribution of all goods
> ultimately benefiting the party elite,
> insiders and chosen trading partners. Everyone else waited in woefully
> inadequate  bread lines.
> The Yugoslavs, Slovakians and Czechs may have fared better. Romania still
> has some of those former Communist leaders running that country.
>
> See any similarities to the present state of affairs? It doesn't matter
> whether it is capitalism or communism, its still the same old crowd
> of greedy scheming freeloaders dominating the economy and eliminating
> competition, in our case using ethically and morally corrupt means,
> essentiallly fascist corporations corrupting government while taking
> advantage of weaknesses in and polarization of our society (bread and
> circus syndrome).
> and erosion of the fabric of our culture. ("we don't need all those
> subsistence gardeners, homesteaders and small farmers using natural methods
> and materials,
> earning their livelihoods in economies local to them, contributing to local
> sustainability and environmental stabilization; don't want to have to
> compete with them anyway;
> they can shop at supermarkets and buy mass produced goods, no need to grow
> their own or provide for others who don't or can't").
>
> I have no idea how people in the USA will deal with this new FSMA (first
> major revision in 70 years) but Bob's suggestion is a good one and maybe
> the best so far. How to we get that going?
>
> China's economy is failing; read this article: "The End Of The Chinese
> Economic Miracle" - Forbes
> http://www.forbes.com/sites/stratfor/2013/07/23/the-end-of-the-chinese-economic-miracle/
> Comments in a forum:
> "The canary in the coal mine is China's physical gold imports. Why would
> any country import so much, except as insurance against economic downturn?
> After all, gold is a bad investment. It doesn't generate any returns."
> "The canary in the coal mine is China's physical gold imports. Why would
> any country import so much, except as insurance against economic downturn?
> After all, gold is a bad investment. It doesn't generate any returns."
>
> *"China’s Transformation * The Chinese are not going to completely collapse
> economically any more than the Japanese or South Koreans did. What will
> happen is that China will behave differently than before. With no choices
> that don’t frighten them, the Chinese will focus on containing the social
> and political fallout, both by trying to target benefits to politically
> sensitive groups and by using their excellent security apparatus to
> suppress and deter unrest. The Chinese economic performance will degrade,
> but crisis will be avoided and political interests protected. Since much of
> China never benefited from the boom, there is a massive force that has felt
> marginalized and victimized by coastal elites. That is not a bad foundation
> for the Communist Party to rely on."
>
> LL