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["Eisenhauer" <eisenhauerdesign@earthlink.net>]

I have been making aerobic charcoal and adding it to the compost pile, and
dear me but the fungi and plant roots  just love it.  They colonize the char
vigorously.  I have a batch of char that I have used to sop up urine that I
am experimenting with that I hope will be a super soil amendment once it has
been through the compost pile for colonization.   

Now this is by visual inspection.  I do not have a laboratory to give you
all the data and perimeters so I guess it will be easy to simply discount my
experience, in which case you really should try this yourself.   The real
potential I see for producing char is in generating heat for cooking, hot
water and heating while producing a viable on farm/homestead feedstock for
the production of a fully mineralized soil amendment while sequestering some
carbon in the soil versus pumping it into the atmosphere.  

I must say though that if we waste energy we are simply chasing our shadow
endlessly.  We must address the base of the pyramid which is energy usage
while utilizing the best  life supporting systems to get what little we
actually need.

Eisenhauer Design Inc.



-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:permaculture-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of christopher
nesbitt
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 2:16 PM
To: permaculture
Subject: Re: [permaculture] Beetle Kill and Biochar-- Fwd: USDA Invests in
Research to Convert Beetle-Killed Trees into Renewable Energy

Again, John, you do not understand the science. Please read "The Biochar
Solution" by Albert Bates so you have any understanding. Right now you are
reactionary and clueless.


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On Nov 7, 2013, at 12:11 PM, John D'hondt wrote:

> Lawrence you know what I think about "biochar". The name is a very 
> good name to sell a product that is quite bad for the planet.
> Want to keep the planet cool? Then go for living trees and shrubs and 
> all sorts of plants. You want to do something good for the soil then 
> let residues rot in situ. That is food for living organisms. Bio-char 
> is a dead substance whatever the name.
> John
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lawrence London" <lfljvenaura@gmail.com>
> To: "permaculture" <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 4:07 AM
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] Beetle Kill and Biochar-- Fwd: USDA 
> Invests in Research to Convert Beetle-Killed Trees into Renewable 
> Energy
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 8:18 PM, Amy Little <amylittle@hvc.rr.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Though not stated clearly... Cool Planet Energy Systems is  BIOCHAR 
>>> oriented company.....
>>> 
>>> From: "USDA Office of Communications" <usda@public.govdelivery.com>
>>> To: jeffs@ncat.org
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2013 1:04:01 PM
>>> Subject: USDA Invests in Research to Convert Beetle-Killed Trees 
>>> into Renewable Energy
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> That could be a lot of trees across the country utilizing losses from 
>> ash dieback, pine beetle and other sources. I remember the years when 
>> pine beetle devastated quite a large number of southern yellow pines 
>> and possibly other varieties.
>> If the harvesting is done on tree farms, state and national parks 
>> lands, federal land, private sector tracts growing timber for paper 
>> or lumber products then you might have a lot of material to convert 
>> to biochar. The main issue is getting the trees harvested and 
>> transported to biochar production sites; who is going to pay for and 
>> do this?
>> 
>> Lawrence London
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