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["John D'hondt" <dhondt@eircom.net>]

Well, just maybe I have read a lot more about it than you Christopher for at 
least two decades. At least the latest from the ISIS institute confirms my 
own misgivings.
And please, science should be about critical thinking and experimenting and 
I have done both, personally.

The worse and more complex the problems become the more simplistic and often 
stupid the solutions proposed become. That seems to be the general rule. And 
I am sure Albert Bates will make more money out of this than I ever will.
John

> Again, John, you do not understand the science. Please read "The Biochar 
> Solution" by Albert Bates so you have any understanding. Right now you are 
> reactionary and clueless.
>
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> On Nov 7, 2013, at 12:11 PM, John D'hondt wrote:
>
> > Lawrence you know what I think about "biochar". The name is a very good 
> > name
> > to sell a product that is quite bad for the planet.
> > Want to keep the planet cool? Then go for living trees and shrubs and all
> > sorts of plants. You want to do something good for the soil then let
> > residues rot in situ. That is food for living organisms. Bio-char is a 
> > dead
> > substance whatever the name.
> > John
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Lawrence London" <lfljvenaura@gmail.com>
> > To: "permaculture" <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 4:07 AM
> > Subject: Re: [permaculture] Beetle Kill and Biochar-- Fwd: USDA Invests 
> > in
> > Research to Convert Beetle-Killed Trees into Renewable Energy
> >
> >
> > > On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 8:18 PM, Amy Little <amylittle@hvc.rr.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Though not stated clearly... Cool Planet Energy Systems is  BIOCHAR
> > > > oriented
> > > > company.....
> > > >
> > > > From: "USDA Office of Communications" <usda@public.govdelivery.com>
> > > > To: jeffs@ncat.org
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2013 1:04:01 PM
> > > > Subject: USDA Invests in Research to Convert Beetle-Killed Trees into
> > > > Renewable Energy
> > >
> > > That could be a lot of trees across the country utilizing losses from 
> > > ash
> > > dieback, pine beetle and other sources. I remember the years when pine
> > > beetle devastated
> > > quite a large number of southern yellow pines and possibly other
> > > varieties.
> > > If the harvesting is done on tree farms, state and national parks lands,
> > > federal land,
> > > private sector tracts growing timber for paper or lumber products then 
> > > you
> > > might have a lot of material to convert to biochar. The main issue is
> > > getting the trees harvested and
> > > transported to biochar production sites; who is going to pay for and do
> > > this?
> > >
> > > Lawrence London
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