permaculture

["Lawrence F. London, Jr." <venaurafarm@bellsouth.net>]

On 12/18/2010 12:53 AM, Keith Johnson wrote:
> I'm reposting the following sentence in the hopes that I might actually
> get a response from the list this time.
>
> *In regard to removing people from the list, please add my vote
> for a warning first.**...on list...in front of peers...with a
> clear statement of the rule violated.*
>
> Is this too much to ask? Is it difficult to do? Would it be too
> embarrassing? What are the problems involved?
>
> The Amish practice "shunning" to express their disapproval of an other's
> behavior. Perhaps we can declare publicly that we are selectively
> shunning a person who repeatedly violates agreed trusts (rules).

I made all of this perfectly clear in the past three posts I made on 
this subject, especially the most recent one. Again: it is the 1% of
subscribers who deliberately try to usurp, distract, degrade, divide 
this list with extremely inflammatory posts who demand immediate action
from me to keep them from going any further, i.e. shown the exit then 
and there. I will continue to implement this policy. I am not going to 
leave decision-making about that 1% to the list subscribership. That's 
how most lists and forums are run if they are to succeed and the 
majority are far more strict with regard to behavior that is tolerated
than this one is. Then there is the issue of real bonafide professional, 
paid industry trolls or self-styled ones masquerading as normal 
subscribers. They do exist, sanet-mg is full of them. These are not 
commons members and I waste no time locking them out of the list. That's 
SOP or all good lists and forums.

Its is the remaining 99% that the list exists for and is capable of
using this forum as a commons. The Commons, list usage and guidelines 
documents on the list homepage apply to that community.

> *In regard to removing people from the list, please add my vote
> for a warning first.**...on list...in front of peers...with a
> clear statement of the rule violated.*

That policy will be followed 99% of the time.