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  • From: <ktho@comcast.net>
  • To: "'permaculture'" <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>, "'Tagari Publications'" <dtp@tagari.com>
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] Thanks everyone for the healthy debate
  • Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:20:48 -0800

That would be dandy if democracy had ever been seen to extend to being able
to vote on whether or not you are going to rob someone of their livelihood
and intellectual property. "Hey - I wanna pirate Mollison's work! Let's vote
on it and then we can *prove* we're right, since everyone agrees!" That's
what the Nazi and the Communists said and we all see how well that worked
out.

That's not democracy - that's mobocracy. And piracy.

Kathleen

-----Original Message-----
From: permaculture-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
[mailto:permaculture-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Evan Schoepke
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 3:44 PM
To: permaculture; Tagari Publications
Subject: [permaculture] Thanks everyone for the healthy debate

Answer Votes Yes, certainly it will benefit Tagari, Bill Mollison,
permaculture, and the earth!
2839%
Perhaps there can be a compromise (sliding scale donation) for the digital
copy
1115%
Other (see
below<http://punkrockpermaculture.wordpress.com/wp-admin/admin.php?page=poll
s&action=results&poll=2241959#other-answers-results>
)
1014%
No, silly permie punk anarchist should just write their own silly free
books...
68%
Whatever, I just got a free copy off some bit torrent and now I'm planting
trees
68%
Yes, but perhaphs it will be bad for Tagari but good for the earth and
permaculture
57%
Only if Bill says so
57%
No, there is no ecological crisis lets just continue business as usual....
11%
Other Answer Votes I believe the internet should be free and holding on
too tightly isn't healthy! 1 It's unethical to steal peoples work. 1 There's
a difference between "free as in speech", and "free as in lunch" 1 if it's
not yours to give away, yuo have no business giving it away. 1 do not take
what does not belong to you without specific permission 1 It is a travisty
and a quantum sin to commercialise learning about permaculture 1 I shared a
story with Bill and got a PDM free in return 1 Yes, Free Access to
Knowledge! 1 Whatever works for you as a superempowered individual! 1
Permaculture
is for everyone regardless of money; not some middle class hobby 1
-- For all who is curious, these are the results of a poll regarding the
distribution of a free or sliding scale digital version of the Permaculture
Designers Manual.

~evan (@gaiapunk)

The obstacle is the Path.
-Zen Proverb

I write at www.punkrockpermaculture.com
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