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[Tripp Tibbetts <slowfoodguy@yahoo.com>]

Maybe I'm a simpleton but I find that when my body craves salt and fat that 
eating a little salt and fat usually does the trick...
 
Tripp



The best fertilizer is the gardener's shadow.
-Chinese proverb
 

--- On Mon, 11/2/09, LINDARAY@att.net <LINDARAY@att.net> wrote:


From: LINDARAY@att.net <LINDARAY@att.net>
Subject: [permaculture] PCNutrition- Ref Rhodiola, Reducing Salt Intake, etc.
To: "permaculture" <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
Date: Monday, November 2, 2009, 7:11 PM


Hi Larry,

I have concentrated on the study of herbs for most of my life, I'm really 
glad to read of your interest in them as well- From what I have already read 
of your posts, it doesn't surprise me one bit; I'm also an avid (dry-pack) 
food storage and chef-type person <VBG>.

Anyway, Rhodiola is an herb which is useful for recovery from Adrenal fatigue 
(I found that out after I no longer needed it), and I just wanted to offer my 
experience ref salt:

I used to crave salt particularly, but also fat (Butter especially, also 
Olive oil, etc.). For many years I craved fat and salt, and during those 
years I tried various kinds of so-called sea salt, interspersed with periods 
of Iodized table salt (Morton Brand). 

Then I discovered Sole, which is a saturated aqueous solution of Celtic Sea 
Salt. I began using the liquid Sole while cooking.

After several months of using Sole exclusively, I noticed that I no longer 
craved salt. I have used Celtic Sole almost exclusively since then..

I discovered last year that craving for fat and salt are apparently earmarks 
of Adrenal Fatigue.

I use the Coarse Light Gray Celtic Sea Salt to make Sole. I decant the Sole 
into a squirt bottle which sits by my stove.
Mineral- and trace mineral-rich, I recommend this Celtic Sea salt highly.

(Note: I do not have any affiliation with the Celtic co, other than liking 
their salt)

Stay well,

Linda :)
----------------------------------------------------
-------------- Original message from "Lawrence F. London, Jr." 
<venaurafarm@bellsouth.net>: -------------- 


> 
> 
> https://lists.ibiblio.org/sympa/arc/permaculture/2009-November/034199.html 
> Larry, you wrote: 
> "...Anyway to start the ball rolling what is the best route to heart and 
> artery health (ignoring inherited genetic factors)? 
> I think of grass fed meat on occasion [2-5 times (meals] per month), a 
> high fiber diet lots of fresh raw vegetables and 
> fruits, maybe muscadine grape seed and skin freeze dried extract. Start 
> early in life with good dietary habits...." 
> LINDARAY: 
> That would all be great which you wrote, but the fastest acting things I 
> can think of are Cayenne Pepper in capsules + Hawthorn Berries. The 
> Hawthorn Berry can be taken any time, but make sure the Cayenne is 
> surrounded by food, both in front of the capsules and behind them. 
> The Hawthorn Berry feeds the Heart muscle and the Cayenne tonifies and 
> clears the arteries and heals tissues. 
> The above info is per Dr. John Raymond Christopher, whose works on herbs 
> I have collected and studied for years. 
> 
> Hello Linda: 
> Glad you are also interested in the pchealth list. I've been wanting to 
> get a good heath & nutrition forum going for years, just never thought 
> of orienting it toward the permaculture community. I guess the time is 
> right for that now. 
> 
> Crops, foods, food preparation are favorite topics of mine, have been 
> since I discovered macrobiotic foods, primarily vegetarian, in the late 
> sixties thanks to a few Meher Baba fellow travellers and a macrobiotic 
> genius from California who taught me how to make miso soup, whole grain 
> brown rice and generally the whole conservative, disciplined approach to 
> macrobiotic dieting. He came to it by way of noticing one day when 
> standing up and looking down he could not see his feet (remember the 
> Rolaids ad with the schmoo-shaped guy with indigestion gyrating around 
> to the beat of a kettledrum). He decided he needed to go on a diet. 
> The world of macrobiotics saved him. 
> 
> I am not familiar with the use of hawthorn berries but I will learn. 
> Maybe I have some supplements with that in them. 
> 
> Rhodiola is an interesting medicinal herb. New Chapter offers a nice 
> supplement with this as the primary ingredient. Also, for same reasons, 
> ginkgo, fo-ti & gotu kola. 
> 
> For heart and artery health I would add the following to your list 
> containing cayenne and hawthorn: 
> 
> probiotics: kombucha, kim chee, unpasteurized kraut, rejeuvelac, seed 
> cheese, soy yoghurt, any of the many refrigerated powdered supplements 
> offered by such companies as New Chapter: All Flora, Smooth Food II, 
> anti-agring formula, others; their vitamins have a probiotics component 
> 
> garlic and onion 
> 
> whole grains and beans (I like the canned beans offered by supermarkets 
> and Whole Foods (their house brands are very competitively priced and 
> equal to all others); also white and yellow grits, steel cut and rolled 
> oats, barley, rice (long, medium and short grain, jasmine, red, black, 
> sweet, sticky, wild, etc.) 
> 
> get plenty of fiber in your diet 
> 
> oat bran, flax seed meal 
> 
> soy products: tofu, soy milk, soy yoghurt, tempeh 
> 
> probably all kinds of antioxidant foods: carrots, citrus, various berries 
> 
> probiotics should be taken at every meal 
> 
> proper food combining for maximum nutrition through maximum digestion 
> 
> always wait until you have fully digested one meal before you eat another 
> 
> never overeat 
> 
> only eat when you are hungry 
> 
> reduce salt intake 
> 
> 
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Tripp - You are my new hero.  Thanks for making my day.

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Intake,etc.

Maybe I'm a simpleton but I find that when my body craves salt and fat that
eating a little salt and fat usually does the trick...
 
Tripp



The best fertilizer is the gardener's shadow.
-Chinese proverb
 

--- On Mon, 11/2/09, LINDARAY@att.net <LINDARAY@att.net> wrote:


From: LINDARAY@att.net <LINDARAY@att.net>
Subject: [permaculture] PCNutrition- Ref Rhodiola, Reducing Salt Intake,
etc.
To: "permaculture" <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
Date: Monday, November 2, 2009, 7:11 PM


Hi Larry,

I have concentrated on the study of herbs for most of my life, I'm really
glad to read of your interest in them as well- From what I have already read
of your posts, it doesn't surprise me one bit; I'm also an avid (dry-pack)
food storage and chef-type person <VBG>.

Anyway, Rhodiola is an herb which is useful for recovery from Adrenal
fatigue (I found that out after I no longer needed it), and I just wanted to
offer my experience ref salt:

I used to crave salt particularly, but also fat (Butter especially, also
Olive oil, etc.). For many years I craved fat and salt, and during those
years I tried various kinds of so-called sea salt, interspersed with periods
of Iodized table salt (Morton Brand). 

Then I discovered Sole, which is a saturated aqueous solution of Celtic Sea
Salt. I began using the liquid Sole while cooking.

After several months of using Sole exclusively, I noticed that I no longer
craved salt. I have used Celtic Sole almost exclusively since then..

I discovered last year that craving for fat and salt are apparently earmarks
of Adrenal Fatigue.

I use the Coarse Light Gray Celtic Sea Salt to make Sole. I decant the Sole
into a squirt bottle which sits by my stove.
Mineral- and trace mineral-rich, I recommend this Celtic Sea salt highly.

(Note: I do not have any affiliation with the Celtic co, other than liking
their salt)

Stay well,

Linda :)
----------------------------------------------------
-------------- Original message from "Lawrence F. London, Jr."
<venaurafarm@bellsouth.net>: -------------- 


> 
> 
> https://lists.ibiblio.org/sympa/arc/permaculture/2009-November/034199.html 
> Larry, you wrote: 
> "...Anyway to start the ball rolling what is the best route to heart and 
> artery health (ignoring inherited genetic factors)? 
> I think of grass fed meat on occasion [2-5 times (meals] per month), a 
> high fiber diet lots of fresh raw vegetables and 
> fruits, maybe muscadine grape seed and skin freeze dried extract. Start 
> early in life with good dietary habits...." 
> LINDARAY: 
> That would all be great which you wrote, but the fastest acting things I 
> can think of are Cayenne Pepper in capsules + Hawthorn Berries. The 
> Hawthorn Berry can be taken any time, but make sure the Cayenne is 
> surrounded by food, both in front of the capsules and behind them. 
> The Hawthorn Berry feeds the Heart muscle and the Cayenne tonifies and 
> clears the arteries and heals tissues. 
> The above info is per Dr. John Raymond Christopher, whose works on herbs 
> I have collected and studied for years. 
> 
> Hello Linda: 
> Glad you are also interested in the pchealth list. I've been wanting to 
> get a good heath & nutrition forum going for years, just never thought 
> of orienting it toward the permaculture community. I guess the time is 
> right for that now. 
> 
> Crops, foods, food preparation are favorite topics of mine, have been 
> since I discovered macrobiotic foods, primarily vegetarian, in the late 
> sixties thanks to a few Meher Baba fellow travellers and a macrobiotic 
> genius from California who taught me how to make miso soup, whole grain 
> brown rice and generally the whole conservative, disciplined approach to 
> macrobiotic dieting. He came to it by way of noticing one day when 
> standing up and looking down he could not see his feet (remember the 
> Rolaids ad with the schmoo-shaped guy with indigestion gyrating around 
> to the beat of a kettledrum). He decided he needed to go on a diet. 
> The world of macrobiotics saved him. 
> 
> I am not familiar with the use of hawthorn berries but I will learn. 
> Maybe I have some supplements with that in them. 
> 
> Rhodiola is an interesting medicinal herb. New Chapter offers a nice 
> supplement with this as the primary ingredient. Also, for same reasons, 
> ginkgo, fo-ti & gotu kola. 
> 
> For heart and artery health I would add the following to your list 
> containing cayenne and hawthorn: 
> 
> probiotics: kombucha, kim chee, unpasteurized kraut, rejeuvelac, seed 
> cheese, soy yoghurt, any of the many refrigerated powdered supplements 
> offered by such companies as New Chapter: All Flora, Smooth Food II, 
> anti-agring formula, others; their vitamins have a probiotics component 
> 
> garlic and onion 
> 
> whole grains and beans (I like the canned beans offered by supermarkets 
> and Whole Foods (their house brands are very competitively priced and 
> equal to all others); also white and yellow grits, steel cut and rolled 
> oats, barley, rice (long, medium and short grain, jasmine, red, black, 
> sweet, sticky, wild, etc.) 
> 
> get plenty of fiber in your diet 
> 
> oat bran, flax seed meal 
> 
> soy products: tofu, soy milk, soy yoghurt, tempeh 
> 
> probably all kinds of antioxidant foods: carrots, citrus, various berries 
> 
> probiotics should be taken at every meal 
> 
> proper food combining for maximum nutrition through maximum digestion 
> 
> always wait until you have fully digested one meal before you eat another 
> 
> never overeat 
> 
> only eat when you are hungry 
> 
> reduce salt intake 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________ 
> permaculture mailing list 
> permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org 
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> 
> 
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