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Re: [permaculture] permaculture Digest, Vol 76, Issue 3

From: "Bryce Ruddock" <bruddockjr@wi.rr.com>
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Subject: Re: [permaculture] permaculture Digest, Vol 76, Issue 3
Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 19:12:19 -0500

For a mycorhizal root dip try Musser Forests, or Fungi Perfecti. Both are reputable and have good products. For their urls just google search. Bryce Ruddock
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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Swine flu linked to Va based Smithfield foods (Mathew Waehner)
2. suitablility of clay for building ponds (Rain Tenaqiya)
3. Re: Swine flu linked to Va based Smithfield foods
(Lawrence F. London, Jr.)
4. OpEdNews ? Scientists Discover That Conservatives Are
Brain-Dead (Lawrence F. London, Jr.)
5. Re: mycorrhizal root dip gel (tom)

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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 14:29:16 -0400
From: Mathew Waehner <waehner@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [permaculture] Swine flu linked to Va based Smithfield
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I never thought I would be defending Smithfield foods, but keeping animals
in monoculture somewhat reduces the risk of new hybrid strains of influenza.

Pandemics usually result when flu viruses from different species hybridize
in the same cell. The current strain is said to by a hybrid of bird, human,
and swine flu. Confinement agriculture isolates pigs from birds, removing
one chance of hybridization. Crucially, it also isolates poultry from
migratory fowl, who spread the newest bird flu genes across the planet.

Flu pandemics happen regularly, and most of the new viruses appear to have
arisen in the sustainable polycultures of Asia.

Once a virus does enter a confinement animal system, it will spread like
fire through gunpowder, exposing the human workers to a high level of virus,
which gives viruses that aren't well adapted to human hosts plenty of
chances to infect humans.

The quote in the original article about factory farms breeding antibiotic
resistant bacteria is true, and it is a compelling reason to stop supporting
that toxic system. But it is a red herring in a debate about influenza.

On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Toby Hemenway <toby@patternliteracy.com>wrote:

Interesting that I keep hearing the media say, as in the article Keith
posted . . .

> A dangerous and rapidly spreading
> strain of influenza . . . has killed over
> 150 people in Mexico,
while the World Health Organization website says, as of May 1,
http://www.who.int/csr/don/2009_05_01/en/index.html

Country Cases Deaths
Mexico 156 9

Sounds like the fearmongers are confusing total cases with deaths.
Be afraid, be very afraid.
Fear makes us compliant.

Toby
http://patternliteracy.com

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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 12:47:26 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rain Tenaqiya <raincascadia@yahoo.com>
Subject: [permaculture] suitablility of clay for building ponds
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I'm building a two acre foot pond to irrigate our permaculture demonstration site and I'm having difficulty identifying appropriate soil for building the dam and lining the pond.? We have quite a mix of soils varying from sandstone-derived loam to serpentine-derived clay.? Is the clay content the most important variable?? We have some very high clay content soil that has a crystal like structure when exposed.? It is very expansive, and when dry, it gets blocky and is easily broken up.? I think it would be fine where it will be under other layers or always wet.? Does anyone have any answers or comments on this?
?
Thanks,
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Rain

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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 22:11:19 -0400
From: "Lawrence F. London, Jr." <lflj@intrex.net>
Subject: [permaculture] Re: Swine flu linked to Va based Smithfield
foods
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=https://lists.ibiblio.org/sympa/arc/permaculture/2009-May/033160.html
=while the World Health Organization website says, as of May 1,
=http://www.who.int/csr/don/2009_05_01/en/index.html
=
=Country Cases Deaths
= Mexico 156 9

BBC News just now:

SWINE FLU:

Confirmed death toll in Mexico rises by three to 19 people

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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 03:25:11 -0400
From: "Lawrence F. London, Jr." <lflj@intrex.net>
Subject: [permaculture] OpEdNews ? Scientists Discover That
Conservatives Are Brain-Dead
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http://www.opednews.com/articles/Scientists-Discover-That-C-by-Mick-Youther-090502-579.html
Scientists Discover That Conservatives Are Brain-Dead
by Mick Youther Page 1 of 2 page(s)
www.opednews.com
Okay, I exaggerate a little. Conservatives are not really brain-dead; their brains just don?t work as well as Liberal
brains when it comes to dealing with change.

<....>

?You turn the AM on and there?s Rush, or Savage, or another of the army of right-wing radio talk show hosts. You may
not be listening hard, just working, driving, doing busywork or the laundry. Yet if you listen day after day, year after
year, your brain will begin to change. ...Words, even those heard casually and listened to incidentally, activate
frames--structures of ideas that are physically realized in the brain. The more the words are heard, the more the frames
are activated in the brain, and stronger their synapses get--until the frames are there permanently. ...All this is
normal. It is how words work. And the right-wing message machine has found a way to take advantage of it - activating,
as it were, a conservative system of thought. ...One diatribe after another, the crucial facts left out or lied about,
day after day, city after city. It has an effect.?--George Lakoff, Professor of Cognitive Science and Linguistics at UC
Berkeley, The San Francisco Chronicle, 4/19/09

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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 08:59:23 -0400
From: tom <tom@honeychrome.com>
Subject: Re: [permaculture] mycorrhizal root dip gel
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I'm gearing up for a weekend of bare-root seedling planting and
wondered if there are any opinions or particular product
recommendations on a mycorrhizal root dip gel?

Thanks

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Re: [permaculture] permaculture Digest, Vol 76, Issue 3, Bryce Ruddock, 05/03/2009