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  • From: chauncey williams <chaunceyfree@yahoo.com>
  • To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] Need top bar beehive design specs
  • Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 20:59:26 -0800 (PST)

check out http://www.biobees.com/  Best pdf file you can find

--- On Thu, 2/5/09, Kate Halstead <rockyprairie@earthlink.net> wrote:
From: Kate Halstead <rockyprairie@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [permaculture] Need top bar beehive design specs
To: "'permaculture'" <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
Date: Thursday, February 5, 2009, 7:47 PM

Have you checked out this version?
http://topbarbees.wordpress.com/2007/03/22/hive-plans/

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:permaculture-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Lawrence F.
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Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 6:11 PM
To: permaculture
Subject: [permaculture] Need top bar beehive design specs


Does anyone have design specs for a top bar beehive they could share with
me?

I looked at this website but found no measurements for any of the
components:

http://home.comcast.net/~beekeeper23/TBH.htm



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Sorry, try this link.
http://www.biobees.com/index.php

--- On Mon, 2/9/09, chauncey williams <chaunceyfree@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: chauncey williams <chaunceyfree@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [permaculture] Need top bar beehive design specs
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Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 8:59 PM

check out http://www.biobees.com/  Best pdf file you can find

--- On Thu, 2/5/09, Kate Halstead <rockyprairie@earthlink.net> wrote:
From: Kate Halstead <rockyprairie@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [permaculture] Need top bar beehive design specs
To: "'permaculture'" <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
Date: Thursday, February 5, 2009, 7:47 PM

Have you checked out this version?
http://topbarbees.wordpress.com/2007/03/22/hive-plans/

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:permaculture-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Lawrence F.
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Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 6:11 PM
To: permaculture
Subject: [permaculture] Need top bar beehive design specs


Does anyone have design specs for a top bar beehive they could share with
me?

I looked at this website but found no measurements for any of the
components:

http://home.comcast.net/~beekeeper23/TBH.htm



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Graeme,

I have had some interesting conversations with my wife Lisa's (Heenan) 1st
cousin, Shire of Yarra Ranges Mayor Tim Heenan regarding that same policy as
he is certainly in favour of the nativist policy that you
mentioned....certainly this may bring home some of my arguments with him
though of course time has a way of not only turning a blind eye to the past
but enlivening the maintenance of these somewhat dangerous paradigms.

One thing is for sure is that house's will be rebuilt and the Euc's will
grow back at higher density with each successive burn and in perhaps another
20-40 years we will be back having the same conversation unless there is a
serious attempt to design both policy and systems that practically and
responsibly deal with the problem as it effects human settlements...I wonder
if in the absence of governmental policy to sort this out if insurance
companies will act to demand their policyholders do something as another
angle...I think that unlike John Brumby they have already become athiest and
no longer believe in acts of god...

It will be interesting to see the Victorian Government's Royal Commission's
Terms of Reference and I wonder whether an updated version of David
Holmgren's currently out of print (?!? - perhaps e-book please?) 'The
Flywire House' would be within these TOR unlike the last instance where as I
understand it 'exceeded the criteria' (correct me if I am wrong David or
Su).

All the best and our thoughts are with those who have suffered losses though
all of this.....

Darren Doherty



2009/2/10 Graeme George <earthcarepc@virtual.net.au>

> Steve
>
> Healesville was on high alert overnight as a fire on the N slope of Mt
> Riddell on the eastern edge of the town flared up The choppers were in
> water bombing late afternoon and have been in again earlier this
> afternoon. Fires continue to burn in all areas to the north - Myers
> Creek, Chum Creek, Toolangi, Long Gully, Yarra Glen area and across
> the Christmas Hills to St Andrews. We are relatively fortunate in
> being under the influence of a slow moving high pressure cell bringing
> moderate cool afternoon southerlies, but this is causing some concern
> in other areas. Locally they've just announced that the opportunity of
> the cooler conditions will be utilised to do some strategic burning of
> unburnt pockets in the Healesville area. I did hear yesterday that
> some areas are being watched but allowed to burn out where property is
> not at risk.
>
> The fire storms of last Saturday that hit Kinglake, Strathewan, St
> Andrews, Steels Creek and Marysville were unprecedented. People caught
> in them had no hope. We will certainly have to rethink how we live and
> farm in this part of the world in the future. The Shire of Yarra
> Ranges have a policy of promoting indigenous plants in urban areas -
> in many cases a condition of permits. That policy will certainly have
> to be reviewed.
>
> Regards
>
> Graeme
>
> On 10/02/2009, at 3:04 PM, stevehart@maxnet.co.nz wrote:
>
> > Tinder Box Ecology...I raised this subject some months
> > ago...perhaps its time to ignite it again. Writing the Urban
> > Design Guidelines for the Shire of Yarra Ranges I mentioned that
> > it was well overdue to consider diversifying the ecology.
> > Perceivably a major issue, but do we just stand by and allow an
> > evolved ecolgy to destroy livelihoods and considerable expense.
> >
> > Perhaps it is the Permaculture Netwok responsibility now to
> > present this idea as a reasonable suggestion and develop a
> > strategic plan to evolve it. I got to know King Lake and
> > Marysville well while I was with SOYR...is Healesville safe
> > Grahame George ?...my heart goes out to all...Steve Hart
> >
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