permaculture

[Lisa in Oregon <lisamaciver8@yahoo.com>]

You might check out http://pathtofreedom.com/; though it's also a 
california climate.

Besides being in a similar climate, I have no data (and probably never 
will, the ability to keep such detailed records is not mine). But I'd 
like to add: with how much labor, and with what level of skill.  

I'm not sure it's reasonable to expect one small nuclear family to 
produce all their needs (including meat, textiles and shoes) from raw 
materials, in a cold-winter climate, even with many acres of land; it 
makes me tired to think of it.  Perhaps if one already had acquired
years of practice in all these diverse skills.

Lisa in Oregon

> On a group working to increase the amount of local food available in
> the
> community a question came up about how much land it would take to
> feed a
> family of four all their food.  The only hard data I could supply
> were from
> the work of John Jeavons and Albie Miles with the qualifiers that the
...


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