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["Graham Burnett" <grahamburnett@blueyonder.co.uk>]

Hi all- we give participants a (self-designed) 'certificate of
participation' following our PC introductory courses, however, this is NOt
the same thing as calling our course 'certificated', this should certainly
only be for the full 72 hour design course unless it is clear that the
'certificate' is self designed/issued.

Cheers graham

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Keith Johnson" <keithdj@mindspring.com>
To: "permaculture" <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: [permaculture] Re: permaculture Digest, Vol 25, Issue 24


I find myself in strong agreement with Scott on this and would recommend
that a 9 day course NOT offer a cerificate. At Earthaven we offer an
8+day fundamentals course that is a prerequisite for an 8 day Practicum,
upon completion of which we offer certification. I would go as far as to
delete from the calendar any course that promised a certificate in less
than 14 days.
Keith

Scott Pittman wrote:

>>
>>   1. Spring Texas Permaculture Class (Selwyn Polit)
>>
>> Hi folks,
>> Please spread the word.
>>
>> Permaculture Design Certification Course
>> Weekends & Saturdays, April 9 – June 5, 2005 in Austin, Texas
>> Attend for 1 day or the whole course
>>
>> What: 9-day course led by Dick Pierce, Selwyn Polit, and other Austin
>> area instructors/designers, offering practical training and skills in
>> sustainable living. We will cover design principles and technologies
>> that you can easily apply to your home, workplace, and community to
>> help you live well in the city or the country.
>
> While I support the spead of permaculture throught teaching, it
> streches credulity to offer a "9" day certification course. Why not a
> three day certification course? The course cannot not properly be
> covered in 9 days and that is why certification courses have always
> been different than introduction, or specialty courses that do not
> offer certification.
>
> If you are offering the true "Certification" course then one must
> follow the established curriculum and class hours, at a minimum. The 9
> day course you are offering may well be a great course offering all
> that you advertise but it should not issue the certificate of
> permaculture design.
>
> Scott Pittman
> Permaculture Institute
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also Patterns for Abundance Design & Consulting
Culture's Edge at Earthaven Ecovillage
http://www.permacultureactivist.net
http://www.earthaven.org
http://www.bioregionalcongress.org





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