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  • From: "THEDRINGS@telefonica.net" <THEDRINGS@telefonica.net>
  • To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] Appropriate road surfacing
  • Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2004 21:59:37 +0200

Picking up on discussion about asphalt.. I live in a small village in
southern Spain. We have a smallholding on a track serving about 50
other farmers. The track is in really bad repair and the local town
hall have refused to maintain it. I want to help organise those of us
served by the road to club together to pay for a suitable solution.
The track is approx 1 km long, 5 meters wide and of varying gradient -
some flatish(~ 40%) and other parts sloping quite steeply. Much of the
track is bordered on the lower side by an irrigation channel. The road
has, over time, become very heavily pot-holed through heavy rain and
poor drainage. With this sketchy information can anyone point me
towards appropriate ways of making sustainable repairs to the road. I
envisage that we could use local contractors who have the kit but may
not have the knowledge - e.g. someone said "lets concrete the whole
road" which I assume is not the best way forward? I'm happy to provide
any other info that may help to formulate a response.
Thanks in anticipation.
Dominic
Tel: 0034 952 15 32 92

----- Mensaje Original -----
De: "Harold Waldock" <hwaldock@yahoo.ca>
Fecha: Lunes, Abril 5, 2004 7:07 pm
Asunto: RE: [permaculture] Durable alternative to asphalt?

>
> I know of two opportunities:
> 1) There is a porous asphalt much used in Mexico that allows water to
> perculate through it. I'm not sure it is
> 2) Grass Crete: Like breeze blocks but laid on the side. The grass
> growsthrough it and it does not suffer from frost. It can be made
> to sit flat
> and is used for fire truck access in multi family dewelling
> complexes. Lance
> Thompson at enviroscape@telus.net showed a picture of it to me at
> a workshop
> recently.
>
> He also showed examples of parking lot/swale combo at schools and
> institutions here in wet, occasionally snowy Vancouver BC Canada.
>
> At my local community swimming pool, they put the ground source
> heat pump
> pipes in the soil beneith the parking lot - If you can't avoid it
> make much
> use of it. Other dual uses that come to mind are tennis courts, roller
> hockey, volley ball and basket ball.
>
>
>
> Harold Waldock
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: permaculture-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
> [mailto:permaculture-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org]On Behalf Of mIEKAL aND
> Sent: March 19, 2004 2:41 PM
> To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: [permaculture] Durable alternative to asphalt?
>
>
> I'm working on the permaculture & landscape design to a new 40
> acre
> campus being built by Organic Valley. We're putting in employee
> gardens, 5 acres of prairie, edible landscaping in the parking
> lots, &
> hopefully a 20 acre demonstration farm in the future. Also in the
> design is an iniative to keep the whole place certified
> organically
> since that's the benchmark of the industry we're in. The biggest
> disappointment with the process so far is that they are having a
> 250
> car parking lot complete with the asphalt. None of the
> alternatives
> that have been looked into so far will hold up to a lot of
> freezing &
> thawing & in some years a lot of snow plowing. Anyone have any
> experience in a northern clime with something other than gravel,
> asphalt, & these permeable tiles which shift around & would make
> it
> hard for snow plowing?
>
> mIEKAL
>
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