Percy-L: Literary, Religious, Scientific, and Philosophical Discussion of Walker Percy

[Justin Bonanno <bonannju AT gmail.com>]

This is cool news. 

I've heard Terence Malick was working on a script for Percy's The Moviegoer at one point.  I've wanted to ask Malick what happened/why he dropped it, but I'm not famous so there's that.

In my opinion, someone should make a film (or short series) based on Lost in the Cosmos. The film would consist of a series of vignettes and culminate in a space odyssey (or two!). 

-jnb

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From: Burma Jones <lesliemarsh AT gmail.com>
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My view is that great literature doesn't necessarily make for great cinema.
Great literature, and I assume we all agree that Percy was in some sense a
great, exists in its own modality.
For it to be transposed into another modality, is aesthetically redundant
to the original work.
It is often said, however, that "second rate" literature is best suited to
cinematic adaptation. There is much to be said for this view.
But I have often thought that *if* there were one novel that could
plausibly be adapted to the screen, it would *Thanatos*.
Leaving the philosophical dimension aside, I recall it worked
brilliantly as a pure thriller. I felt my heart rate increasing with the
dramatic tension.
But again, this would only be a superficial perspective on the novel,
though in competent hands, it could jibe with the current and prevailing
medicalization of the population in our time.

Regards,

Leslie Marsh.

On Sun, Nov 6, 2022, 2:13 a.m. RHONDA MCDONNELL <rhonda_mcdonnell AT msn.com>
wrote:

> Always good to see the list having some activity!!
>
> Regarding The Second Coming, I fear the best of it will be lost in a film
> translation. I?ve always been a bit unsettled at the age gap between Will
> and Allie, and I wonder if that wouldn?t be accentuated while the spiritual
> element would be lost entirely? We?ll just have to wait and see I suppose.
> We?ve yet to see Percy make it to screen.
>
> I agree with Janet that Thanatos might be an easier translation to screen,
> though I suspect the child abuse would need to be downplayed. I suspect
> though that the Nazi connection wouldn?t make it at all. As for any other
> aspects, I see the worst of science and social machinations  combined in
> Van Dorn and Comeaux?none of which needs be political in my estimation.
>
> However, I have always held the view that literature is conversation
> between reader and text. There is certainly room for varying
> interpretations of any text, and the times do influence how we see a text.
> Percy was pretty liberal in his day, but during the pandemic I was in a
> book club that read Love in the Ruins, and the younger folks in the group
> were offended at Percy?s language. They saw him as something of a racist
> and couldn?t get past it.
>
> I guess this is all to say that whatever Percy intended, how the reader
> takes his meaning is partly up to the reader.
>
> My best to all,
>
> Rhonda
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Nov 5, 2022, at 4:45 PM, Michael Larson <larsonovic AT gmail.com> wrote:
>
> ?
> Karl, two questions: 1) Do you think Percy was enamored of scientism? 2)
> What do you think he was after in Thanatos?
>
> Mike Larson
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>>    1. Re:  Adaptation of Walker Percy Novel ?The Second Coming? -
>>       Aaron Magnani (Producer) (Karl M. Terrell)
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>> Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2022 18:00:15 +0000
>> From: "Karl M. Terrell" <kterrell AT stokeswagner.com>
>> To: "janetcantor37 AT yahoo.com" <janetcantor37 AT yahoo.com>, "Percy-L:
>>         Literary, Religious, Scientific, and Philosophical Discussion"
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>> Subject: Re: [percy-l]  Adaptation of Walker Percy Novel ?The Second
>>         Coming? - Aaron Magnani (Producer)
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>> I would hope, though, that any moviemaker of Thanatos would not cheaply
>> politicize it as a critique of liberalism (either in the broad classic
>> sense or under the ?liberal? label in American politics), or as an
>> endorsement of the current right-wing?s fetishistic misunderstanding of
>> expertise based on real science.
>>
>> Percy was after something altogether different.
>>
>> Karl Terrell
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Nov 5, 2022, at 11:16 AM, janetcantor37--- via Percy-L <
>> percy-l AT lists.ibiblio.org> wrote:
>>
>> ?
>> I would like to see any good adaptation of any Percy novel.
>>
>> I think the easiest for adaptation would be The Thanatos Syndrome.
>>
>> It is wild enough to illustrate today's choices about how our authorities
>> handled Covid and vaccinations, and about how the ruling class imposes its
>> ideas of what is going on in the planet and casually ruins our lives and
>> our economy as they go about it. Look how the novel matches how do gooders
>> who think they know what is best for everyone else often forget that
>> others' personal freedom and happiness must not be ignored while they are
>> "helping" the world.
>>
>> There is also that plot about Nazis in the novel that comes from Percy's
>> own pivotal experience of seeing some Nazi Youth when he was a young boy
>> and being viscerally changed by that and never forgetting that scary
>> feeling. There is so much talk about Nazis these days, even that subplot is
>> relevant.
>>
>> A side comment: Percy hated the Nazis and used that subplot in an attempt
>> to give the reader the same terror he understood about tyranny and how it
>> can become normalcy so easily. He was balancing that against the "good
>> intentions" of those who were wrongheadedly giving the happy juice to
>> everyone to bring peace and calm into the world. Yet someone in my book
>> group, a very intelligent woman read that and hated the book because she
>> didn't like the way Percy was minimizing and mocking the Holocaust. She
>> missed Percy's point completely.
>>
>> Another woman there made the pithiest comment on the novel. "Just because
>> we are able to do something does not always mean we should do it."
>>
>> I think The Thanatos Syndrome could be a perfect novel to adapt today.
>>
>> Wouldn't it be wonderful if movie makers could at last see that these
>> novels were prescient and could entertain us yet give us all food for
>> thought.
>>
>> I wonder if any adaptation of The Second Coming could be successful. It
>> isa strange story, but if it could be pulled off, it could be magical.
>>
>> Janet Cantor
>>
>> On Saturday, November 5, 2022, 10:38:07 AM EDT, Henry P. Mills III <
>> wppdirector AT gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Dear Percy-L:
>>
>> Members may be interested in this news of a future Percy novel film. Is
>> the Second Coming more adaptive to the big screen than the Moviegoer?
>>
>> I wonder what novel members of the community think would be best suited
>> for a feature-length film? It?d be interesting to hear the community?s
>> responses.  Is Second Coming the most likely one?
>>
>> Best wishes,
>> Henry Mills
>>
>>
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>> Aaron Magnani Developing Film Adaptation Of Walker Percy Novel ?The
>> Second Coming?; Peter Arneson Set As Screenwriter
>>
>> Aaron Magnani has optioned screen rights to Walker Percy?s New York Times
>> bestseller The Second Coming, with plans to develop the novel for film.
>> He?s currently in search of a director for the adaptation and will produce
>> via under his Aaron Magnani Productions banner. Peter Arneson adapted the
>> script and will executive produce.
>>
>> The story centers on a wealthy, suicidal widower who searches for proof
>> of God but finds much more when he meets a young woman fugitive from a
>> mental hospital. Influenced by the real-life suicides of Percy?s father and
>> grandfather and suspected suicide of his mother, the plot combines comedy,
>> tragedy and romance, with themes of alienation and redemption.
>>
>> ?This story is very relatable to the world we have been living in,? said
>> Magnani. ?And the adaptation is as much a director?s piece as an actor?s
>> piece and incredible character study.?
>>
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https://jnbonanno.com