Percy-L: Literary, Religious, Scientific, and Philosophical Discussion of Walker Percy

[Michael Larson <larsonovic AT gmail.com>]

David, Yes, from the first moment I started reading Lancelot ("Come in to my cell"), I thought it would be a great film if it were in the hands of a great filmmaker. After reading all the novels, I still think it is the most filmic, but I would love to see any of them done well. Though I am a great admirer of some of Terrence Malick's work, I found his (extremely) loose approximation of The Moviegoer ("Knight of Cups," starring Christian Bale, whose acting I normally admire as well) to be boringly self-indulgent cinematographic doodling. To be fair, I only watched it once, but I couldn't stay awake, so maybe I missed something worthwhile in it.

I would be much more interested in seeing Malick, on a shorter interpretive leash, making Lancelot. That would be a very interesting film. Even better might be Christopher Nolan directing, with Christian Bale as Lance.

I think all the Percy novels--and Lost in the Cosmos, as Wade Riddick suggests--have strong potential as films, and as Janet Cantor said, Thanatos is a natural, as is the other Tom More novel, Love in the Ruins. But again, the direction is key. Any of them could be awful in the wrong hands.

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Rhonda, et al,

I know the book club. ? We live in a different time. I'm not sure what can be taught and what can't be taught, in the age of super-sensitivity. Next year will be my final year in academia. I loved it from the beginning, but, like most instructors in the humanities, I'm glad to get out, though sad at the same time. Everything has changed, including the lack of lit courses to teach. I used to teach Percy, but our lit courses have been narrowed to so few that I can't teach Percy or lit again.

But, on topic, I always thought, given a creative director and script writer, Lancelot could make a great movie, with flashbacks from his cell.

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Always good to see the list having some activity!!

Regarding The Second Coming, I fear the best of it will be lost in a film translation. I?ve always been a bit unsettled at the age gap between Will and Allie, and I wonder if that wouldn?t be accentuated while the spiritual element would be lost entirely? We?ll just have to wait and see I suppose. We?ve yet to see Percy make it to screen.

I agree with Janet that Thanatos might be an easier translation to screen, though I suspect the child abuse would need to be downplayed. I suspect though that the Nazi connection wouldn?t make it at all. As for any other aspects, I see the worst of science and social machinations  combined in Van Dorn and Comeaux?none of which needs be political in my estimation.

However, I have always held the view that literature is conversation between reader and text. There is certainly room for varying interpretations of any text, and the times do influence how we see a text. Percy was pretty liberal in his day, but during the pandemic I was in a book club that read Love in the Ruins, and the younger folks in the group were offended at Percy?s language. They saw him as something of a racist and couldn?t get past it.

I guess this is all to say that whatever Percy intended, how the reader takes his meaning is partly up to the reader.

My best to all,

Rhonda

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Karl, two questions: 1) Do you think Percy was enamored of scientism? 2) What do you think he was after in Thanatos?

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I would hope, though, that any moviemaker of Thanatos would not cheaply politicize it as a critique of liberalism (either in the broad classic sense or under the ?liberal? label in American politics), or as an endorsement of the current right-wing?s fetishistic misunderstanding of expertise based on real science.

Percy was after something altogether different.

Karl Terrell

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I would like to see any good adaptation of any Percy novel.

I think the easiest for adaptation would be The Thanatos Syndrome.

It is wild enough to illustrate today's choices about how our authorities handled Covid and vaccinations, and about how the ruling class imposes its ideas of what is going on in the planet and casually ruins our lives and our economy as they go about it. Look how the novel matches how do gooders who think they know what is best for everyone else often forget that others' personal freedom and happiness must not be ignored while they are "helping" the world.

There is also that plot about Nazis in the novel that comes from Percy's own pivotal experience of seeing some Nazi Youth when he was a young boy and being viscerally changed by that and never forgetting that scary feeling. There is so much talk about Nazis these days, even that subplot is relevant.

A side comment: Percy hated the Nazis and used that subplot in an attempt to give the reader the same terror he understood about tyranny and how it can become normalcy so easily. He was balancing that against the "good intentions" of those who were wrongheadedly giving the happy juice to everyone to bring peace and calm into the world. Yet someone in my book group, a very intelligent woman read that and hated the book because she didn't like the way Percy was minimizing and mocking the Holocaust. She missed Percy's point completely.

Another woman there made the pithiest comment on the novel. "Just because we are able to do something does not always mean we should do it."

I think The Thanatos Syndrome could be a perfect novel to adapt today.

Wouldn't it be wonderful if movie makers could at last see that these novels were prescient and could entertain us yet give us all food for thought.

I wonder if any adaptation of The Second Coming could be successful. It isa strange story, but if it could be pulled off, it could be magical.

Janet Cantor

On Saturday, November 5, 2022, 10:38:07 AM EDT, Henry P. Mills III <wppdirector AT gmail.com<mailto:wppdirector AT gmail.com>> wrote:


Dear Percy-L:

Members may be interested in this news of a future Percy novel film. Is the Second Coming more adaptive to the big screen than the Moviegoer?

I wonder what novel members of the community think would be best suited for a feature-length film? It?d be interesting to hear the community?s responses.  Is Second Coming the most likely one?

Best wishes,
Henry Mills


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Aaron Magnani Developing Film Adaptation Of Walker Percy Novel ?The Second Coming?; Peter Arneson Set As Screenwriter

Aaron Magnani has optioned screen rights to Walker Percy?s New York Times bestseller The Second Coming, with plans to develop the novel for film. He?s currently in search of a director for the adaptation and will produce via under his Aaron Magnani Productions banner. Peter Arneson adapted the script and will executive produce.

The story centers on a wealthy, suicidal widower who searches for proof of God but finds much more when he meets a young woman fugitive from a mental hospital. Influenced by the real-life suicides of Percy?s father and grandfather and suspected suicide of his mother, the plot combines comedy, tragedy and romance, with themes of alienation and redemption.

?This story is very relatable to the world we have been living in,? said Magnani. ?And the adaptation is as much a director?s piece as an actor?s piece and incredible character study.?


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