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  • From: "MARK A. ABNER" <wizard1 AT kih.net>
  • To: "Market Farming" <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Corn Gluten
  • Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 19:50:17 -0500

I checked with my feed mill this afternoon corn gluten runs $5.85 cents per
hundred pounds here so you all buy in the little bags may want to hunt up
a feed mill

Mark Abner
BriarPatch Farms
Ritner KY zone 6b


> [Original Message]
> From: Elaine Granata <ecgranat AT ouray.cudenver.edu>
> To: Market Farming <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Date: 12/29/2005 7:38:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Corn Gluten
>
> Thanks to everyone for the discussion on corn gluten. It certainly
dismays
> me that we probably can't get plain old corn gluten that hasn't been
> monkeyed with.
>
> I think I'll contact my supplier to let him know there's a demand for
> non-GMO and/or organic corn gluten, just to work the supply side of this
> equation.
>
>
> Elaine
> Denver
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "road's end farm" <organic101 AT linkny.com>
> To: "Market Farming" <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 10:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Corn Gluten
>
>
> >
> > On Dec 29, 2005, at 11:36 AM, Elaine Granata wrote:
> >
> > > Maureen and all: I've been worried about this. How do the GMOs
> > > "move" in
> > > the soil and to the plants from the corn gluten (I know its through
> > > the
> > > roots)? I may not be asking the question correctly, but I want to
> > > know if
> > > the GMO in the gluten enters the plant--say broccoli, or tomatoes that
> > > have
> > > been side dressed with gluten? Does anyone know?
> > >
> > > Elaine
> > > Denver, Zone 4-5
> > >
> >
> > > Elain
> > > My understanding of the genetic transfer of gmo genetics would be
> > > though
> > > cross ponination of a similar crop or variety I dont see any getnetic
> > > mechanism for transfer through the roots any more than your gonna get
> > > cow
> > > genetices from fertlising your squash with cow manure. But then I am
> > > not a
> > > genetisist.
> > >
> > > Mark Abner
> > > BriarPatch Farms
> > > Ritner KY zone6b
> >
> > I don't think corn gluten could transfer the corn DNA as such to other
> > corn or other crops; but the BT toxin produced by GMO corn has I
> > believe been shown to be persistent in the soil in which such crops
> > were grown. (I don't think naturally produced BT toxin is persistent in
> > the soil). I haven't heard of anyone having done the work to find out
> > whether the toxin persists in corn gluten meal, for how long it
> > persists there, whether it would be taken up in crops to which the
> > gluten has been applied; or what the effect is on soil micro-organisms,
> > human health, or anything else of all this.
> >
> > So I suspect that the answer to Elaine's question is, nobody knows.
> > (And yes, I think they should have found out before releasing this for
> > general use.)
> >
> > If current or possible future organic certification is a concern of
> > yours, I would definitely consult with a certifier before using the
> > stuff.
> >
> > -- Rivka; Finger Lakes NY, Zone 5 mostly
> > Fresh-market organic produce, small scale
>
>
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