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[Don Bowen <don.bowen AT earthlink.net>]

At 4/22/2007, you wrote:
> That of course
> is oversimplified, but using that definition, it seems
> that conservatives are not ready to change from the
> traditional bountiful consumerism that we all grew up
> with.

I read a column recently that defined it as an age of consumerism and greed.

> Aside from that I see no way it could be lib. vs. cons.

I guess Rove blew up recently when Sheryl Crow asked him about Global Warming.



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We have tree cores, particularly in my region, or old region, where we have 
trees themselves that are 2-3,000 years old plus the ones laying in the 
bottom of the Trinadad Harbor that were covered by the tsunami in 1620 that 
have had cores done.

And, as much as it pains them, we do have fairly reliable verbal history 
that, in most cases, comes pretty darned close to accurate right down to the 
day in some cases (the above mentioned tsunami is one instance).

We have geology which reads the upheavals and what have you.  We don't need 
human written history to "read" the history of the earth.

Lynda
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From: "Rob" <becida AT comcast.net>


> What data? If we had some good records since the last ice age we
> might have a handle on what's happening. I just read something on the
> grape growing in Britain worrying the French, that was before the
> Little Ice Age ( Little Ice Age lasted from roughly the fourteenth
> through the nineteenth centuries).
>
> Lynda talked of 150 years of records and the ice ended 8k-10k years
> or so back. That's not a lot of data.
> We just don't know enough yet.
> I'm really tired of saying "we just don't know enough yet"....
>
>
>
> Rob
> becida AT comcast.net
>
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