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[Gene GeRue <genegerue AT ruralize.com>]

> > Originally 'orgainic' meant not bringing anything from outside the farm 
> > rather than a list of things that could be brought in.
>
> The guy I used to buy my popcorn from has told me that is his definition 
> of biodynamic. Nothing imported. He raises cattle and many different crops 
> and has an essentially closed loop except for the sun and rain coming in 
> and the popcorn and beef going out.

Shame on me, I wrote in a hurry and shortchanged you sweet people. I should 
have said that the closed loop is PART of the biodynamic definition. 
Biodynamic is organic gardening/farming raised to a whole different level. 
Practitioners make exotic teas and composts, plant by the moon and much 
more. Some people I have known take it to a spiritual level. Such people 
are followers of Rudolf Steiner, the guy who created Waldorf schooling, the 
forerunner of what today are called Montessori schools, not to mention 
anthroposophy.