Development of Creative Commons licenses

[drew Roberts <zotz AT 100jamz.com>]

On Saturday 28 May 2005 03:01 pm, Evan Prodromou wrote:
> On Sat, 2005-05-28 at 11:35 -0700, Mark Ivey wrote:
> > If I have a CC license notice on my work, do I also need the copyright
> > notice?  I couldn't anything about this on the CC website.
> >
> > The instructions for using the GPL explicitly state that I need the
> > copyright notice so I assume I do for CC also.  Is that right?
>
> Let me tell you a little something about Bad Bart, Mark.
>
> OK, just kidding. Side issue there.
>
> The rule in the USA used to be that you _had_ to put a copyright notice
> on every work in order to retain copyright on it. This rule kind of
> disappeared back in the 70s when the USA joined the Berne Convention and
> we got the idea of "natural copyright" -- that is, that you
> automatically have a copyright on everything you produce.

And here we have what I think is one of the biggest destroyers of the public 
domain. I would hope it was an unintended consequence, but one side of me 
wonders.

So, I know this is not the domain of the Creative Commons, but is anyone 
interested in discussing off list (setting up another list to discuss) ways 
to change the law such that the default for "non-marked" works is some form 
of copyleft/sharealike license instead of all rights reserved?

I am very interested in at least persuing discussions for a while.
>
> However, many if not most people still use the copyright notice format:
>
>       Copyright YEAR, YEAR, YEAR NAME.
>
> ...or something along those lines. This is not strictly necessary, but
> it _is_ pretty useful; after all, knowing who holds the rights to a
> work, and what year(s) the work was made are pretty useful.
>
> For some reason, though, the Creative Commons Web site deprecates the
> use of copyright notices in favor of those "This work under a Creative
> Commons license" notices. I don't know why, but that's been the style
> for quite a long time.
>
> Anyways, to answer your question: no, you don't need to, but it helps.
>
> ~Evan
all the best

drew
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