[permaculture] Not soy good for you
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Tue Nov 10 23:33:01 EST 2009
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On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 8:32 PM, maria morehead <spiralmother at gmail.com>wrote:
> *Nourishing Traditions* by Sally Fallon, Copyright 2991, New Trends
> Publishing, Inc.
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 7:04 PM, Stephen Brennan <thebrenmeister at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>> interesting, but would you mind inclding some sources etc so that I might
>> check this data myself.
>> thank you
>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 4:37 PM, <SArjuna at aol.com> wrote:
>> > Not Soy Good For You
>> > Information from Sally Fallon, Mary Enig and Susan Weed:
>> > -The justification for more soy is based on the spurious notion that
>> > we should reduce fat. Fats contain many nutrients that are vital for
>> > growth and development, and that contribute to the proper function of
>> > brain and nervous system. (The right fats, of course.)
>> > -High levels of phytic acid in soy block the absorption of calcium,
>> > magnesium, copper, iron and and especially zinc and contributes to
>> > widespread
>> > mineral deficiencies. (Soy is the legume with the most phytates.)
>> > - Phytic acid in soy is not neutralized by ordinary preparation
>> > methods such as soaking, sprouting and long, slow cooking. High phytate
>> > diets have
>> > caused growth problems in children.
>> > - Trypsin inhibitors in soy block the action of enzymes needed for
>> > protein digestion and may cause pancreatic disorders. In test animals,
>> > trypsin inhibitors cause stunted growth.
>> > - Soybeans contain hemagglutinin, which causes red blood cells to
>> > together.
>> > -Phytoestrogens in soy can inhibit normal development and can cause
>> > reproductive and fertility problems later in life. Recent research
>> > implicates
>> > these phytoestrogens in the development of Alzheimer's and dementia.
>> > are "brain aging" substances.
>> > - Soy phytoestrogens disrupt endocrine function and have the
>> > to cause infertility and to promote breast cancer in adult women.
>> > - Soy phytoestrogens are potent antithyroid agents that inhibit
>> > thyroid function, leading to fatigue and mental problem. They cause
>> > hypothyroidism and may cause thyroid cancer. In infants, consumption of
>> > formula has
>> > been linked to autoimmune thyroid disease. Soy isoflavones are the
>> > potent thyroid inhibitor, followed by daidzein and genistein.
>> > - Vitamin B12 analogs in soy are not absorbed and actually increase
>> > the body's requirement for B12.
>> > - Soy foods increase the body's requirement for vitamin D. Vitamin
>> > and B12-both essential for normal growth and development.
>> > - Modern soy products contain carcinogens and toxins formed during
>> > processing. Fragile proteins are denatured during high temperature
>> > processing
>> > to make soy protein isolate and textured vegetable protein. Processing
>> > soy protein results in the formation of toxic lysinoalanine and highly
>> > carcinogenic nitrosamines.
>> > - Free glutamic acid or MSG, a potent neurotoxin, is formed during
>> > soy food processing and additional amounts are added to many soy foods.
>> > causes neurological problems, including violent behavior.
>> > - Soy foods contain high levels of aluminum, which is toxic to the
>> > nervous system and the kidneys.
>> > - Soy foods do not provide complete protein, as thought by many.
>> > Like all legumes, soy beans are deficient in sulfur-containing amino
>> > methionine and cystine. In addition, modern processing denatures fragile
>> > lysine.
>> > - Fermented soy foods cannot provide vitamin B12 in vegetarian
>> > as some believe. The compound that resembles vitamin B12 in soy cannot
>> > used by the human body; in fact, soy foods cause the body to require
>> > B12
>> > - In some people, consumption of soy foods will lower cholesterol,
>> > there is no evidence that lowering cholesterol decreases the risk of
>> > heart disease.
>> > - Children receiving soy formula as their only food take in over 10
>> > time the levels of isoflavones on a body weight basis than the amount
>> > to
>> > cause thyroid suppression in adults after three months and about eight
>> > times the levels of isoflavones on a body weight basis as the amount
>> > to
>> > cause hormonal changes in adults after just one month.
>> > - Babies on soy formula receive the estrogenic equivalent of at
>> > 5 birth control pills per day. Pediatricians are noticing greater
>> > of boys whose physical maturation is delayed, or does not occur at all,
>> > including lack of development of the sexual organs. Learning
>> > especially in male children, have reached epidemic proportions. Soy
>> > feeding, which floods the bloodstream with female hormones that could
>> > inhibit the
>> > effects of male hormones, cannot be ignored as a possible cause for
>> > tragic developments.
>> > An alarming number of girls are entering puberty much earlier than
>> > according to a recent study reported in the Journal of Pediatrics. One
>> > percent of girls now show signs of puberty, such as breast development
>> > pubic
>> > hair, before the age of three; by age eight, 14.7 percent of white girls
>> > and
>> > a whopping 48.3 percent of African-American girls had one or both of
>> > characteristics. Use of soy formula in the WIC program, supplying free
>> > formula to welfare mothers, may explain the astronomical rates of early
>> > menarche
>> > in African-American girls.
>> > - Aluminum content of soy formula is 10 times greater than that of
>> > milk-based formula, and 100 times greater than in unprocessed milk.
>> > - Soy formulas lack cholesterol, another nutrient that is absolutely
>> > essential for the development of the brain and nervous system; they also
>> > lack
>> > lactose and galactose, which play an equally important role in the
>> > development
>> > of the nervous system.
>> > No other dietary staple has as many antinutrient drawbacks as soy.
>> > Nor so many public relation firms and lobbyists working for it.
>> > From Susan Weed:
>> > Soybeans were one of the five sacred grains in the Orient. [Ancient]
>> > agricultural reports speak frequently of using soybeans in crop rotation
>> > (to
>> > fix nitrogen and thus improve soil fertility) but there is no indication
>> > that soybeans were eaten until fermentation processes were discovered,
>> > sometime
>> > around 440 BCE. The first soy products eaten by people were tempeh,
>> > miso, and shoyu tamari. It was not until some centuries later (2nd
>> > century
>> > BCE) that the process of making tofu was discovered.
>> > While it is true that the people of the Orient have [used] tofu as a
>> > source of protein for about a thousand years, this is not necessarily by
>> > choice nor beneficial. The early Chinese did not eat soybeans, although
>> > they did
>> > eat other pulses, because they recognized the large quantities of a
>> > of harmful substances....
>> > There are more phytates in soybeans than in any other grain, bean,
>> > plant studied and these phytates are remarkably resistant to reduction
>> > techniques. Only a long period of fermentation will significantly reduce
>> > the
>> > phytate content of soybeans....
>> > Vegetarians - especially vegetarian children - who eat tofu and
>> > soy milk as substitutes for meat and dairy products are at very high
>> > of
>> > loss of bone mass and severe mineral deficiencies. Oriental children who
>> > eat soy but no meat, eggs, or dairy often suffer from rickets, stunted
>> > growth,
>> > and lowered intelligence. Unfermented soy virtually destroys all zinc in
>> > the body, and zinc is critical for optimal development and functioning
>> > the
>> > brain, nervous system and immune system.
>> > The soy industry has concentrated for 20 years on creating markets
>> > the byproducts of soy oil manufacture: lecithin and soy protein, [which]
>> > were generally (and rightly) considered "poverty foods" and rejected by
>> > most
>> > consumers.
>> > The soy industry recognized that, according to a spokesman: "The
>> > quickest way to gain product acceptability in a less affluent market is
>> > have
>> > the product consumed on its own merit by those who are more affluent."
>> > Thus
>> > these soy byproducts have been cleverly marketed to resemble traditional
>> > foods: soy milk malteds, soy baby formula, soy yogurt, soy ice cream,
>> > cheese, soy hot dogs, and so on. These are fake products, not health
>> > The production of soy milk does remove trypsin inhibitors, but at
>> > expense of denaturing the proteins, making them indigestible, of
>> creating a
>> > carcinogen, lysinealine, and of reducing the cystine content, an
>> > amino acid which is already very low in soybeans. The phytate content
>> > remains, further deranging the diet.
>> > Soy formula and soy milk is often made with soy protein isolate, an
>> > extremely refined product lacking virtually all minerals and vitamins.
>> > soy formulas sold for infants are rich in trypsin-inhibitors which can
>> > stunt
>> > growth. And all contain staggering amounts of mineral-depleting
>> > The
>> > aluminum content of soy formula is 100 times greater than unprocessed
>> > Aluminum has a toxic effects on infants kidneys and may be a cause of
>> > Alzheimer's in adults. Soy formula lacks three important nutrients found
>> > all
>> > milk: cholesterol, which is essential for brain development, and lactose
>> > and
>> > galactose, which play vital roles in the development and functioning of
>> > nerves.
>> > Allergies to soy are at least as common as allergies to milk.
>> > Nitrosamines, potent carcinogens often associated with meat, are found
>> > high
>> > concentrations in all commercial soy protein foods. Isoflavones,
>> > anticarcinogenic
>> > substances present in soybeans may have a pro-cancer effect when
>> > unfermented. Although soybeans contain large amounts of omega-3 fatty
>> > acids,
>> > these acids are particularly susceptible to rancidity when subjected to
>> > high heat and pressure require to remove the oil from the bean; such
>> > rancidity promotes cancer and heart disease. Additionally, all soy oil
>> > extracted
>> > with a solvent, traces of which remain in the oil.
>> > Shivani's own experience:
>> > I relied heavily on tofu for years until routine blood work showed
>> > thyroid insufficiency. No wonder I was always chilly when others felt
>> > warm
>> > and comfortable. I had to undertake thyroid hormone replacement in
>> > to
>> > be functional, but looked for the reason for my problem in order to be
>> > to remove it and get my thyroid working well again. Soy consumption
>> > loomed as a likely culprit. (Abetted, IMHO, by electrical pollution,
>> > which
>> > had considerably increased my stress load.) I stopped eating all
>> > unfermented soy products in June of 2002. My thyroid hormone dosage
>> > at 25
>> > mcg. a day. By October 2003 I was taking just 1.5 mcg. in the early
>> > evening,
>> > the time when I consistently had the most trouble. A few months later,
>> > was able to ease off altogether.
>> > As the change in diet was undertaken concurrently with reduction of
>> > electrical pollution in my home environment, it is not possible to say
>> > my
>> > thyroid would have healed with just one change or the other. However,
>> > those
>> > stressed by electrical pollution seem to “break” at their weakest link,
>> > to speak. So what had weakened my thyroid? I believe it was regular
>> > consumption of tofu.
>> > Others have had similar experiences. If your thyroid gland
>> > is down due to soy consumption, though, recovery is certainly possible,
>> > go for it.
>> > You can very effectively self-test for thyroid insufficiency by
>> > the Basal Metabolism Test. This will accurately show problems that
>> > blood tests do not.
>> > Shivani in WI
>> > .
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ends. It is not like a novel that starts at a certain point and ends at a
certain point. It is an ongoing phenomenon. Lovers end, love continues– it
is a continuum. It is a verb, not a noun." Osho
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mortality and morbidity related to cesarean section, most of them would get
up and go out and have their baby under a tree…”
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‘epidemic.’ Ob.Gyn. News Vol 22 No 10
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