[nafex] NAFEX on Facebook

Louis Pittman lpittman at murraystate.edu
Tue Sep 23 14:28:42 EDT 2014


David/Deanie,
I've been a member of NAFEX, and a user of the listserve, for nearly 20
years.
There has been more 'traffic' in years past than in the most recent year or
two.
I've come to 'know' a lot of folks across the country - and the world, for
that matter - through participation and reading on this listserve.
I can probably count on one hand the number of list participants whom I've
actually met, face-to-face - but that doesn't preclude me from calling them
my friends, and I don't hesitate to ask for or offer to share information,
plant materials, etc.   It's been a very gratifying experience over the
many years, and I have techniques and plants that would have otherwise been
unknown to, or unavailable to me.

Yes, I'm on FB, and see some of the FB posts - and have responded to a few;
but the NAFEX email discussion list is still my 'go-to'...  Both platforms
have their place/use, but for me, the listserve is more effective.

Lucky Pittman
Hopkinsville, KY

On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Deannie Hughes <davidndeannie at nctc.com>
wrote:

> First, I am no tech or media expert. I have only been on facebook myself
> for a short period of time. It has its drawbacks to be sure. I am very
> surprised at who shows an interest in my postings. This is the point. I did
> not mean to suggest that this forum nor any other should be eliminated, but
> that a presence on the other platforms might draw in new blood and refresh
> the oganization. Nafex has been difficult for me to enjoy because I do not
> know but one or two other members. I have tried to join in on some
> discussions on topics I was interested in on this forum and was basically
> ignored. I enjoyed  the paper version of Pomona and understand it is
> expensive to produce and mail thus it's demise. So, what is there for me or
> anyone else to want to join?
> It may be a sign of the times, that people are no longer joiners to any
> sort of organization. The internet as a whole has made information "free"
> though not neccessarily correct or even close to accurate. I suppose my
> suggestion is to be more inclusive as a forum. Maybe include people you
> don't know in your discussions. Try to make this forum a little less of a
> public display of private conversations.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry Nichols" <
> bnichols at ecotechinc.com>
> To: "nafex mailing list at ibiblio" <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 11:22 AM
> Subject: Re: [nafex] NAFEX on Facebook
>
>
>  There is a LOT wrong with the opinion expressed below. I want to start
>> off restating the aspects which ARE correct. NAFEX, like most similar
>> organizations, has experienced a decline in membership. Boards become
>> entrenched, people who worked tirelessly for organizations slow down,
>> marketing and recruitment wane for decades and time shows culture changes
>> quite a bit. So, I would agree that social media has a part to play in
>> people focusing their interests and seeking out the proverbial
>> birds-of-a-feather. Not too many years ago it might take weeks to get
>> answers via mail unless one was willing to fork over a large amount for
>> long-distance calls...remember those black things with the little dial with
>> fingerholes? ;) That said, ALL communication platforms have limitations as
>> well as areas of strength. If, as you rightly describe below, one is
>> looking for "light conversation", social media works. How many of us want
>> more info? Social media is also good for a sort of chat-of-the-mo
>> ment. It is not as good as a listserv for more in depth discussions and
>> archives...and that's fine. It wasn't designed to be. Additionally, just a
>> presence on facebook doesn't mean that creates members. Years ago I was
>> surprised at how many forum members were not members of NAFEX. The forum
>> certainly had the attention of non-member fruit-growers. How can that be?
>>
>> The assumption that since everyone does not mindlessly accept certain
>> communicative platforms means it is a generational issue, or that someone
>> is really missing out if they don't interact on twitter and facebook is
>> faulty at best. I *could* drive a Seguay across the country but would
>> p[robably be better served in my trusty old car. Social media platforms ARE
>> pretty good from a marketing perspective. However, because of the usability
>> of the various platforms, many do not lend themselves well to more in-depth
>> disussion. I'll take my copy of POMONA rather than have to wade through all
>> the copy on Facebook or any of the other platforms-of-the-moment. <GASP>
>> Lest this be turned into some rant from a luddite, I use computers, both
>> professsionally and personally, day and night, I have 2 smartphones, a
>> tablet, 3 desktops, and a laptop. I carry a signal booster in my vehicles
>> because my work also takes me far off the beaten path. I LIKE technology. I
>> just don't think some of the bel
>> ls and whistles are worth trading away my privacy rights, nor do I think
>> I should limit my interactions with others or my reading to easily digested
>> bites found only on twitter and facebook...and I really don't need to see a
>> picture of the really great pizza someone had for lunch. I do agree there
>> should be a presence, but I think we should recognize why we're there, and
>> the limitations as well as the benefits. We should also realize, we're not
>> all going to drive the same cars. While some of us may stream content, we
>> also buy CDs and DVDs.  And vinyl records are on the rise again...mainly
>> fueled by a much younger audience who were not around for them the first
>> time.  Social media should be additive NOT substitutive. YMMV...and as I
>> stated before, that is why these platforms exist.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nafex [mailto:nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of
>> Deannie Hughes
>> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 9:24 PM
>> To: Jwlehman at aol.com; nafex mailing list at ibiblio
>> Subject: Re: [nafex] NAFEX on Facebook
>>
>> Ladies and Gentlemen,
>> This conversation is one of the symtoms of a dying NAFEX. The refusal to
>> change with the time and modes of communication means that no new people
>> are coming into the fold. Young people have already moved beyond Facebook
>> to newer platforms.
>> Facebook is there for light conversation. Pictures of your latest
>> whatever, keeping in touch. Ibiblio can be a format for more in depth
>> discussion.
>> Facebook can be an outreach tool to attract new people into the
>> organization. Use it to make NAFEX look cool and fun and maybe it can grow
>> a new crop of fruit lovers
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jwlehman--- via nafex" <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
>> To: <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
>> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 8:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nafex] NAFEX on Facebook
>>
>>
>>  Every day I get several messages where someone has posted a picture, I
>>> could spend all day looking at pictures. The Indiana Nut & Fruit
>>> Growers has a FB page. When someone posts a question one must sign on
>>> to answer, then fight their commercials. Much simpler and faster to
>>> reply to questions on this net, ibiblio.
>>> FB is OK for people with lots of time on their hands and don't mind
>>> commercials, but not my cup of tea.
>>>
>>> Jerry Lehman
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 9/22/2014 11:46:55 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>> lfljvenaura at gmail.com writes:
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 11:32 AM, mIEKAL aND <qazingulaza at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  My reason for mentioning this is that there are things that can be
>>>> done
>>>>
>>> to
>>>
>>>> integrate. In the very least, I or others that are on both can post
>>>>
>>> things
>>>
>>>> back to this list. Since the Facebook group is public, the links of
>>>> people's posts are viewable on the web, even if you are not a member.
>>>>
>>>> For instance I just posted a hopped apple mead recipe I just made.
>>>> You should be able to click on this link and see the pictures and
>>>> the
>>>>
>>> recipe.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/21070015101/permalink/101526855689251
>>>> 02/
>>>>
>>>> ~mIEKAL
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for pointing that out. I did not know that FB offered public
>>> viewing of pages configured for that level of access.
>>>
>>> I hope others with FB accounts will crosspost Nafex FB page posts,
>>> comments, videos and images freely to this forum.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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