[NAFEX] Fwd: Forum and Pomona

Chris Garriss cgarriss at garriss.net
Thu Aug 11 19:47:06 EDT 2011


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On Aug 11, 2011 5:35 PM, "Leslie Moyer" <unschooler at lrec.org> wrote:
> I sent this yesterday but didn't see it go through....I was going to
forget about resending it, but then Deb picked the topic up again today.
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: Leslie Moyer <unschooler at lrec.org>
> Date: August 10, 2011 10:38:52 PM CDT
> To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Forum and Pomona
>
> But the switch to the forum presumably is saving no money, correct? Does
the email list cost anything to run? Does it cost more or less than the
forum? It seems to me like if the members of this list should have been
involved in the decision about whether they want to switch to the forum or
not. I may have missed it, but I didn't see any discussion about that here.
I can't think of a better place to get members input about that than
here.... I didn't even know there was a forum until it was brought up the
last day or two here. There are already forums out there on "edible
landscaping" topics (which include a lot of fruit). They're much more active
and more user-friendly than the NAFEX forum. Here's one, for example:
http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/edible/ That same general forum site has
specific groups to discuss individual plants such as figs, etc. As good as
that forum is, I don't use it either as it is, as Glinda said, a "pull"
technology....I have to remem
> ber go to there or have a specific reason to do so.
>
> And, re: the assertion that the forums are "easy to use"...I've already
been stymied by them. I logged into the membership page just fine, but when
I tried to log onto the forums it gave me an error message and said I had to
reset my password (via email, I think) with the forum administrator (or
something like that). Did I do it? No--I gave up. I had already waited over
60 seconds for EACH of the three pages to load (members page login, forum
page login, forum login failed page)....so three minutes and NO progress
viewing even a single thread. The software seems particularly clunky (which
I think added to the download time)--there was one page that loaded and then
another "overlay" that loaded over the top of that that also had to load, so
each page had to basically load twice.
>
> Leslie Moyer
> unschooler at lrec.org
> www.ShadyGroveNaturalFarm.com
>
>
>
> On Aug 10, 2011, at 9:36 PM, Deb S wrote:
>
>> NAFEX is a membership organization. It is governed by elected officers
and
>> a Board of Directors. There is an annual meeting where the business of
>> NAFEX is discussed and the members have their say in what happens. The
>> minutes of these meetings are printed in Pomona and since the switch to
>> online are on the website in the NAFEX business pages. r.
>>
>> If you don't care for the decisions made at these meetings and by these
>> elected representatives, then attend the meetings, contact the reps and
tell
>> them your concerns (Contact info is also on the website for those
>> volunteers), or volunteer to run for office or for the board so you can
help
>> deal with the challenges that NAFEX faces.
>>
>> Like you the officers and Board members are all busy people. Most don't
>> read this list (it is not an official NAFEX offering, in case you didn't
>> know). So you will need to get in touch with them directly.
>>
>> I know they let NAFEX members know about the financial issues as much as
18
>> months before the changes were made. This was before I volunteered, so
the
>> information was out there for general members to see. Just saying you
don't
>> like the changes, does nothing to help the organization deal with the
real
>> financial issues or provide value to members.
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