[NAFEX] Cornus mas

Lee Reich lreich at hvc.rr.com
Sat Jan 16 18:56:58 EST 2010


Cornus mas bears much better with cross-pollination.

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On Jan 16, 2010, at 6:09 PM, Ginda Fisher wrote:

> Mine produced ~20 fruits last year, but that was it's first real  
> crop.  So I'd say the jury is out.
>
> I ate some under ripe and some ripe (and quite soft).  More people  
> liked it when it was soft and very ripe, and the flavor was more  
> complex, as well as sweeter.  I like very sour fruit (as a toddler,  
> my parents would give me the lemon wedge from their water at  
> restaurants) and I enjoyed it before it was soft.  But my guess is  
> that if you have to ask, you would prefer it fully ripe.
>
> -- Ginda
>
> John S wrote:
>
> Ginda,  Does your Pioneer produce a lot of fruit and do you wait for  
> it to soften up a lot?
>
>
>
> --- On Sat, 1/16/10, Ginda Fisher <list at ginda.us> wrote:
>
> From: Ginda Fisher <list at ginda.us>
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Cornus mas
> To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
> Date: Saturday, January 16, 2010, 5:33 PM
>
> The one that's fruited for me is Pioneer.  I guess I got lucky.  One  
> of the others is Elegant.  It's doing fine for me in zone 6.  Mine  
> are all growing in the shade.  I bought it mostly because I was  
> looking for something that might fruit without any full sun at all.   
> Since one of them is, indeed, fruiting (and I even like it!) I'm  
> quite pleased with the plant.
>
> Ginda
> eastern MA, zone 6
>
> On Jan 16, 2010, at 5:22 PM, John S wrote:
>
>> I find that C. mas fruit must soften up before it is ready to eat,  
>> often nearly like bletting.  Typically, I will pick the fruit up  
>> after it has fallen to the ground and let it sit covered in the  
>> kitchen (keeps any fruit flies off of it that may be in the area)  
>> for at least several days to as long as a week or so before  
>> eating.  After some experimentation, you will be able to easily  
>> judge readiness.  I would never try eating a crunchy C. mas fruit  
>> myself.  Of the varieties I have experience with:
>>
>> Pioneer - perhaps the most complex and very good flavor, but must  
>> be very soft.  Productivity has so far been very limited, but was  
>> my first to start fruiting.  I only ripen a few fruits each year on  
>> my 10+ year old tree.
>>
>> Elegant - Very good tasting and ripens on tree for me.  However, I  
>> have lost two trees over the years and this one seems to be less  
>> hardy than other selections for that reason.  This would be the  
>> variety I would recommend for just starting out if your climate is  
>> mild enough to grow it (zone 6?)
>>
>> Yellow - Very prolific and good tasting fruit.  Taste reminds me of  
>> plums, which is different from the previous two mentioned.  Fruits  
>> are about half the size of Pioneer and Elegant and are plum shaped  
>> where as the others above are pear shaped.
>>
>> Golden Glory - A selection for landscaping rather then fruit.  Very  
>> prolific blossoms that make it a good pollinator for other C. mas.   
>> I stumbled across a good deal and picked this one up.  Fruits are  
>> significantly smaller than Yellow but in large numbers.  Taste is  
>> good when allowed to soften but not much there due to C. mas's  
>> relatively large seed.
>>
>> Of the 4, Elegant is the one that seems to be most similar to the  
>> traditional fruit that you harvest without special handling before  
>> eating and has given me the most consistent experience.
>>
>> John
>>
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