[NAFEX] scions

Justin West chuckjwest at hotmail.com
Tue Feb 24 20:27:30 EST 2009


Still wondering if anyone can point me in a direction for aquiring (buying or trading) some graft wood for disease resistant varieties of pear, asian pear, plum, apricot, and-or peach.  I realize this is a rather general question but any ideas would be appreciated.  
Justin
New Jersey
"zone 6" more like 7

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>    1. Re: Asian Pear / Deer Attacked - Anthony Curcio (Lucky Pittman)
>    2. Re: I need a fertilizer source (dmnorton at royaloakfarmorchard.com)
>    3. Re: Asian Pear / Deer Attacked - Anthony Curcio (Lon J. Rombough)
>    4. Re: Asian Pear / Deer Attacked - Anthony Curcio
>       (Hilborn.E at epamail.epa.gov)
>    5. Re: climate zones (Bob Randall)
>    6. Kentucky NAFEXers (nuttrees)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 12:28:39 -0600
> From: Lucky Pittman <lucky.pittman at murraystate.edu>
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Asian Pear / Deer Attacked - Anthony Curcio
> To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
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> Anthony,
> The presence of the large thorns makes me suspect that what you 
> thought was the graft union is probably not, and that the new shoots 
> are from the rootstock and not from the grafted variety.
> 
> 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 13:01:40 -0600
> From: <dmnorton at royaloakfarmorchard.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] I need a fertilizer source
> To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
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> Jim,
> 
> We had Ag Resources come in about 2 years ago and they did additional soil 
> tests for us and gave us some recommendations for growing our giant 
> pumpkins.  I totally forgot about them!  They did a good service for us and 
> spent a lot of time with us.  They do offer the same services as 
> Wilbur-Ellis and since we have done business with WB for over 15 years now, 
> we opted to stay with WB for our orchard.
> 
> Dennis Norton
> Royal Oak Farm Orchard
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jim Fruth" <jfruth at tds.net>
> To: "NAFEX" <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
> Cc: "Barb Wagner" <barbw at uslink.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 9:47 AM
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] I need a fertilizer source
> 
> 
> >    Just yesterday I received a catalog from Ag Resource, Inc. (Detroit 
> > Lakes, MN / 1-800-288-6650) that includes AGRO-K products.  AGRO-K sells 
> > OMRI  fertilizers (that's Organic Materials Review Institute) for foliar 
> > spraying.  The list includes micronutrients and could be used for what I 
> > need.  Minimum quantity is one gallon, in most cases, and mostly under 
> > $20.00
> >
> > Jim Fruth
> > Brambleberry Farm
> > Pequot Lakes, MN  56472
> > For jams, jellies, syrups and more:
> > www.jellygal.com
> > 1-877-265-6856 (Toll Free)
> > 1-218-831-7018 (My Cell)
> >
> > 
> 
> 
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 12:18:48 -0800
> From: "Lon J. Rombough" <lonrom at hevanet.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Asian Pear / Deer Attacked - Anthony Curcio
> To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
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> Pear and apple seedlings go through a "juvenile" phase before they  
> start bearing in which they frequently have thorns and may also have  
> leaves with lobes rather than entire leaves.   As the tree matures, the  
> wood becomes thorn-free and trees grafted from the mature wood are  
> usually free of thorns.  However, grafting wood taken from areas of the  
> tree close to the "juvenile" part may produce thorns, especially on  
> vigorous new shoots.  Your tree may have been grafted from such wood  
> and the shock of the deer damage made the new shoots come out with  
> thorns.   Such juvenile shoots will grow out of the thorns, but they  
> will also take longer t o come back to bearing than thornless shoots.   
> Meanwhile, the thorns give them some  deer protection.
> -Lon Rombough
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> On Feb 24, 2009, at 10:13 AM, Anthony Curcio wrote:
> 
> Last year without any warning Crazed Deer attacked a small planting of  
> our pampered 2 yo Asian pears. Emotionally beaten I did not return to  
> the site of the raid until recently. Now one tree, a Hosui, which had  
> its trunk snapped in two has multiple new shoots rising from just above  
> the graft. Although the shoots are above the graft the new growth has  
> what appears to be large thorns. I would like to know if I should  
> choose one new shoot and cut the rest of the tree back or cut the new  
> growth off and see if the old trunk will emerge ? I have taken a couple  
> of pictures but didn?t know if they would work with this reply. I could  
> send off line.
> Thank you, Anthony z4b
> ?
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> Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 15:27:34 -0500
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> "Pear and apple seedlings go through a "juvenile" phase before they
> start bearing in which they frequently have thorns and may also have
> leaves with lobes rather than entire leaves. "
> 
> Lon, that is fascinating!  Do you know if pomegranates may act
> similarly?  My "Favorite" came back from a freeze event from the roots
> but now suckers terribly and has thorns.
> 
> Betsy Hilborn
> 7a NC
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> Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 14:37:56 -0600
> From: Bob Randall <YearRoundGardening at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] climate zones
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> Some years ago while trying to advise gardeners and farmers all over  
> the Houston area, I became aware of just how bad the existing USDA  
> zones were--both out of date and not very helpful, and insensitive to  
> local differences (the area has places where there is one frost every  
> other year and others where there are 25-40 every winter).  I started  
> doing web based research on historical weather in the Houston  
> Galveston College Station Metro Region.  What I found was that even  
> the weather data is not collected as if people used it for plants.
> 
> For example, if you wanted to know how many frosts to expect in a  
> winter--suppose you want to grow a lemon or protect your peppers for  
> example--you can't find this out easily since the weather data is  
> collected and reported by calendar year.  It is actually necessary to  
> manually count up all fall winter and spring dates for the last part  
> of one year and second part of another to get a total, and then do it  
> for that location for the last ten or 20 years
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> As anyone with math training knows, averages (mean or median??) tell  
> you very little about the extremes or their frequency, and plants care  
> mostly about that.  So I decided to report frequencies, rather than  
> averages
> 
> So what I did was a lot of mind numbing counting on NOAA web sites.  
> But the way of reporting is much more useful if you grow fruits or  
> vegetables.
> 
> See http://www.urbanharvest.org/advice/basics/weather_data.html
> 
> This is for our area, but there is no reason why similar effort  
> wouldn't work anywhere.
> 
> Bob Randall
> On Feb 21, 2009, at 3:01 PM, Michele Stanton wrote:
> 
> > The USDA climate zones are not meant as an all-encompassing guide to  
> > what grows where.  They are based on average winter minimum  
> > temperatures, and nothing more.   Their main advantage is that they  
> > are so widely used.  You can find similar maps for almost any  
> > country or area in the world now. Read more at: http://www.usna.usda.gov/Hardzone/index.html
> >
> > Those of you West of the Rockies should look at the Sunset climate  
> > zones.  They're a much more accurate picture of climates.  I  
> > introduce students to Sunset's national maps even though I live in  
> > the Midwest. I wish they were more widely used.  They're based on a  
> > larger number of factors, such as minimum and maximum temperatures,  
> > rainfall amount and timing, humidity, and length of the growing  
> > season. Check them out at:  http://www.sunset.com/garden/climate-zones/
> >
> > Some nurseries use a combination of USDA zones and AHS heat zones,  
> > which is at least a little more helpful.  If you haven't used the  
> > AHS heat zones, you can obtain info for your area by entering your  
> > zip code.
> >
> > http://www.ahs.org/publications/heat_zone_map.htm
> >
> > Michele in SW Ohio
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> Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 18:23:05 -0500
> From: "nuttrees" <nuttrees at prtcnet.org>
> Subject: [NAFEX] Kentucky NAFEXers
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> Lucky thank you 
> 
>        Yes we are open but in a Research and development mode mostly.   I do
> have plants available for pick up and we are shipping this coming spring
> season but we are still working on getting it together for fall 2009.   I
> was in Iraq for almost 1 year so I have needed a lot of catching up to do I
> did not get out of the army till 1 September 06.  I was injured and have
> required several surgeries to fix a few things but I am working on it and
> will open up fully in the near future.  
> 
>  
> 
> I have found that I have to deal with Iraq while it is still fresh in my
> mind and I'm not finding it easy to cope with some things in day to day
> life,   I am taking it a lot easier these days the nursery will come back
> some day soon but I have to come back first. 
> 
>  
> 
>  I have not up dated the web site but plan to in the near future.   I will
> supply my list of scion wood and plant material and the list of cultivars
> available.  
> 
>  
> 
>    I do have some plant material available Kaki & Virginiana persimmons,
> Jujube and Asian pears and some other plant material.  The most interesting
> thing I have to release is Rojo Brillante Kaki from Spain just out of the
> post entry Quarantine this past fall very large fruit and very firm when
> ripe 
> 
>    Please contact me off list.          
> 
>  
> 
> Thank you
> 
> Clifford England
> 
> 316 KY HWY 2004
> 
> McKee,  KY  40447
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> www.nuttrees.net <http://www.nuttrees.net/> 
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