[NAFEX] cardboard and assorted weed barriers

Kevin Moore aleguy33 at yahoo.com
Wed Feb 18 13:52:47 EST 2009


I live in a very wet area too. The water table is only about three feet down in most areas. If you put a good layer of compost (4-6 inches) under the cardboard, you shouldn't have any problems with the roots breathing. Once the cardboard is saturated, the earthworms come up through it into the top mulch layer. This system could help your soil immensely. I have also found that yearly applications of gypsum help to soften clay soils over time, until you have deep rich soil.




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From: Lori Rizzo <larizzo at charter.net>
To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 9:21:56 PM
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] cardboard and assorted weed barriers

I have a question - I live in a flood plain, clay soil - i.e., poor
drainage.  Will using the cardboard cause a problem with water retention -
fungi, etc.?  Last year I mulched with straw, and didn't have a problem,
though it was a dry year for us.  I did buy some landscape fabric for this
year to try out.  East TN - zone 7.

Lori

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Nice heads-up re carpet & winter, Alan.  I've seen synthetic carpets used as
pathes or mulches and they ALWAYS make a mess-- hard to remove if/when you
want-- and always looks awful.

For newspapers, I've found 8-10 sheet layers are needed to slow down
rhizomatous grasses, and larger areas than you intend to open up if you want
to kill the grass.  I aim for 50% overlap of 4-5 layer pieces.  If you want
to till the area in autumn, use no thicker than 6 layers.

Some mulch, most any kind, is needed to hold down the newspapers.  Also to
hide it from woodchucks which want it for nesting material.



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> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 18:14:26 -0500
> From: alandhaigh at gmail.com
> To: nafex at lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: [NAFEX] cardboard and assorted weed barriers
>
> I've always been a bit squeemish about herbicides and so I've used all
manner of weed barriers to establish the fruit trees I install and to
protect my garden. I've used cardboard for years as have many gardeners as
well as newspaper, and carpet. Sometimes I use landscape fabric. Pretty much
whatever I have around- I never let newspaper or cardboard leave my
property, unless it's to mulch some trees I'm installing. I'd be a bit
reluctant to use cardboard for raspberries for fear it would deter emerging
plants so I use the flimsier newspaper for that. If there is any kind of
drainage issue I use very porous landscape fabric- don't want to interfere
with the transfer of oxygen for carbondioxide.
>
> Old wool rugs or carpet works great, as long as you pull it away during
the winter- rodents love it.
>
>
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