[NAFEX] Egremont Russet

Whipple, Andy ANWHIPPLE at TAYLORU.EDU
Thu Dec 11 14:11:05 EST 2008


I'd concur that Egremont Russett, Golden Russet, Roxbury Russet, and St. Edmunds Pippin, each of which is a bit different, are all good to eat out of hand.  I also like Zabergau Reinette and Ashmead's Kernal.  My experience is that all these russeted varieties tend to acquire a moldy taste upon storage, but that could just be how and where I'm storing them.
Hudson's Golden Gem is yet another russet I really do enjoy, with its slightly nutty flavor making it different yet from the others.

Andy Whipple
Upland, IN  east central IN, zone 5b


-----Original Message-----
From: nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org on behalf of John Bunker
Sent: Thu 12/11/2008 2:01 PM
To: North American Fruit Explorers
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Egremont Russet
 
I've had one branch on one tree for many years.  It was sent to me by  
a Nafexer 20+ years ago.  I assume it is correct.  It is relatively  
early ripening (late summer), does not keep and the fruit size is not  
large - "medium" at best.  I like the fruit however.  When dead on  
ripe, it's good for eating out of hand.  I'd be happy to send you  
scionwood in a couple of months.
Regards
John Bunker
Fedco
trees at fedcoseeds.com
www.fedcoseeds.com
PO Box 520
Waterville ME 04903
207-873-7333


On Dec 11, 2008, at 1:52 PM, Webmail wynne wrote:

> regarding egremont russett
> anyone with scions   comments   thanks wynne at jerzyboyz farm
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>> I have St Ed's Russet, definitely my favorite.  My season here in
>> central VT is a tad too short for Golden or Roxbury.  Egremont will
>> likely be pulled.  No fruit yet (year 5 on M/9) and a really weird
>> growth habit to boot.
>>
>> TB
>>> I noticed that I have a couple of St. Edmonds Russets in my  
>>> nursery which
>>> is
>>> a variety that receives glowing reviews in the few references I  
>>> have on my
>>> book shelf.  Is anyone out there growing this variety?  Comments  
>>> welcome.
>>>
>>>
>>
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>> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 09:43:17 -0600
>> From: "mIEKAL aND" <qazingulaza at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] I need Aronia melanocarpa
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>> I have both of those varieties, but not sure I could tell any
>> difference between them.  I made 5 gallons of wine this year from
>> them, haven't sampled yet, but I imagine the anthocyanins are off the
>> chart.  One of the best uses I find is to let them dry on the bushes
>> (they don't drop) & you have yourself aronia raisins, which are far
>> less astringent than the fresh fruit.  Work great in pilafs & such.
>>
>> ~mIEKAL
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Lon J. Rombough  
>> <lonrom at hevanet.com> wrote:
>>> Aronia isn't a fruit to eat fresh.  Even though it can develop  
>>> high sugar
>>> (I've measured 23 Brix and more on ones I've tested) you can't  
>>> eat that
>>> many
>>> before the astringency makes your mouth feel dry.  The two main  
>>> varieties
>>> are Nero and Viking.  They top the list in productivity.  Hidden  
>>> Springs
>>> Nursery has them.
>>> -Lon Rombough
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>> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:09:24 -0500
>> From: Ginda Fisher <list at ginda.us>
>> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] I need Aronia melanocarpa
>> To: jas39a at earthlink.net,	North American Fruit Explorers
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>> I've had 'naturally colored' products that include some aronia  
>> juice for
>> color.  As a rule of thumb, I prefer the flavor of chemical food  
>> coloring
>> agents.  (obviously, very little of a chemical food color is used,  
>> so it
>> adds little if any flavor.)
>> ___
>> Ginda
>>
>> ...... Original Message .......
>> On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 10:40:43 -0500 (GMT-05:00)  
>> jas39a at earthlink.net wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> The Aronia I've eaten tasted like damp cardboard.  I do not  
>>> understand
>> their appeal.
>>>
>>> Eddie Earles
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: "Lon J. Rombough"
>>> Sent: Dec 11, 2008 10:37 AM
>>> To: North American Fruit Explorers
>>> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] I need Aronia melanocarpa
>>>
>>> Aronia isn't a fruit to eat fresh. Even though it can develop high
>>> sugar (I've measured 23 Brix and more on ones I've tested) you can't
>>> eat that many before the astringency makes your mouth feel dry. The
>>> two main varieties are Nero and Viking. They top the list in
>>> productivity. Hidden Springs Nursery has them.
>>> -Lon Rombough
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>>> On Dec 11, 2008, at 6:02 AM, Jim Fruth wrote:
>>>
>>>    Please send me the name of a nursery that sells Aronia  
>>> melanocarpa
>>> (sp) that tastes good.
>>>
>>>    I had some but they got uprooted when they were in the way but I
>>> forgot where I bought them.  So I got a new batch from a  
>>> Conservation
>>> tree place but the fruit has almost no flavor and leaves a bad after
>>> taste.  I need good tasting plants.  Thanks.
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>> From: "Hal Love" <lovehd at comcast.net>
>> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] I need Aronia melanocarpa
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>> I read a paper a couple of years ago where some reseachers looked  
>> at the
>> genetics of Aronia. 'Viking' and 'Nero' were genetically identical  
>> to each
>> other, and produce seedlings that are also identical or nearly so
>> (apomixis?). These two clones (sports?) are tetraploid. Wild  
>> Aronia are both
>> diploid and tetraploid. The tets all seem to self-pollinate and  
>> produce
>> nearly identical seedlings, while the dips are out-crossers and  
>> produce
>> variable seedlings.
>>
>> Hal
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "mIEKAL aND" <qazingulaza at gmail.com>
>> To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 9:43 AM
>> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] I need Aronia melanocarpa
>>
>>
>>> I have both of those varieties, but not sure I could tell any
>>> difference between them.  I made 5 gallons of wine this year from
>>> them, haven't sampled yet, but I imagine the anthocyanins are off  
>>> the
>>> chart.  One of the best uses I find is to let them dry on the bushes
>>> (they don't drop) & you have yourself aronia raisins, which are far
>>> less astringent than the fresh fruit.  Work great in pilafs & such.
>>>
>>> ~mIEKAL
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Lon J. Rombough  
>>> <lonrom at hevanet.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> Aronia isn't a fruit to eat fresh.  Even though it can develop high
>> sugar
>>>> (I've measured 23 Brix and more on ones I've tested) you can't  
>>>> eat that
>> many
>>>> before the astringency makes your mouth feel dry.  The two main
>> varieties
>>>> are Nero and Viking.  They top the list in productivity.  Hidden  
>>>> Springs
>>>> Nursery has them.
>>>> -Lon Rombough
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>> From: "Brungardt, Sam" <Sam.Brungardt at state.mn.us>
>> Subject: [NAFEX] smell of ginko fruits
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>> What Do You Think Ginkgo Fruit Smells Like?
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