[b-hebrew] Biblical Names Ending in -YH

Zalman Romanoff flintflintflintflint at gmail.com
Sun Dec 30 18:44:44 EST 2012


Johannes Cornelis de Moor wrote about this extensively in "The Rise of
Yahwism: The Roots of Israelite Monotheism". It was discussed on this list
in 2004.

Noam Eitan,
Brooklyn, NY

On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 5:32 PM, K Randolph <kwrandolph at gmail.com> wrote:

> Jim:
>
> On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 12:02 PM, <jimstinehart at aol.com> wrote:
>
>>   Karl:
>>  **** **
>>  Thank you for your comments, but except for your very brief mention of
>> Uriah, they do not directly address my twin contentions that (i) the first
>> book in the Bible that has as the personal name of an individual character
>> a west Semitic name ending in -YH that honors YHWH is II Samuel,
>>
>
> Wrong. Go back to my response and see all the names that came before David.
>
>
>> 1.  You wrote:  “First of all, names ending in -YH and -YHW are
>> alternate spellings for the same name. So you have to include MYKYHW Judges
>> 17:1, 4 and CRWYH 1 Samuel 26:6.”
>>  ** **
>>  Some scholars say that -YHW is the southern way, attributable to old
>> Judah, whereas -YH is the northern way, which was not adopted by the
>> Hebrews until later [King David’s time and thereafter].
>>
>
> Balderdash. Example, look at 2 Kings 1 and see that )LYH and )LYHW both
> used to refer to the same individual, the same with )XZYH and )XZYHW.
>
>
>>>> **
>>  6.  You wrote:  “Go to 1 Chronicles, the first ten chapters are deadly
>> to read—all they are are genealogies. So we find before David )YH 1:40,
>> (ZRYH 2:8, CRWYH 2:16.”
>>  ** **
>>  Yes, there are dozens of names in Chronicles that end with -YH, many of
>> which [though not all of which] are west Semitic names that honor YHWH.  But
>> Chronicles comes long after II Samuel in the Bible, even though Chronicles
>> in part covers time periods before King David.
>>
>
> Because it records events that occurred before King David, it falsifies
> your thesis. But I also mentioned CRWYH David’s uncle, mentioned in 1
> Samuel and 1 Chronicles. Even by your reckoning, 1 Samuel comes before 2
> Samuel.
>
>>   ** **
>>  7.  Karl, although you make many interesting comments, most of them
>> [other than your brief mention of Uriah] do not go directly to either of my
>> twin contentions, which are that (i) the first book in the Bible that has
>> as the personal name of an individual character a west Semitic name ending
>> in -YH that honors YHWH is II Samuel, and that (ii) King David should
>> rightly get the credit for being the first person in the Bible to give to
>> one or more of his sons a west Semitic name ending in -YH that honors YHWH.
>>
>
> You didn’t read what I wrote, did you?
>
>>   ** **
>>  Jim Stinehart
>>  Evanston, Illinois
>>
>>
> Karl W. Randolph.
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