[b-hebrew] Song of song 1:7

Pere Porta pporta7 at gmail.com
Thu Dec 13 10:08:04 EST 2012


Karl,

is noun HWMYH, commotion, found in the Tanakh?
If yes, where does it appear?

Greetings.

Pere Porta

2012/12/13 K Randolph <kwrandolph at gmail.com>

> Pere:
>
> Thanks for the quick response.
>
>  On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 8:54 PM, Pere Porta <pporta7 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> It is not a noun, Karl. It is a Qal Participle, singular feminine of (+H.
>>
>
> That’s what the dictionaries say. But I’ve noticed that the majority of
> the time what is called a “participle” is actually a noun “the person or
> object that is doing such and such an action”.
>
>
>> It is not from (Y+. Remark that in Song 1:7 the yod comes after the teth
>> and not before it.
>>
>
> I noticed that, but I also noticed that the two times the verb listed in
> the dictionary as (Y+ is used, it lacks the yod.
>
>
>>  It is a variant —rarely appearing in the Tanakh—  of the much more
>> usual form without the yod:
>>
>
> But the -YH ending is found on several nouns, including: )LYH tail of
> sheep, )NYH ship, BYRNYH fortified place, BNYH building, BRYH food to feed
> someone, GDYH bank (of river), GWYH body, DWMYH stillness as in rest, HWMYH
> commotion, etc. So the form is consistent with a noun. Further, its use
> within the verse is consistent with a noun, not a verb. Therefore, is this
> another example where tradition is wrong?
>
>>
>> Look at Dt 20:20; Jd 20:31 and Is 49:21 for some instances of this much
>> common form (lacking yod) of the Qal Participle, singular feminine, of
>> verbs lamed"heh (or lamed"yod).
>>
>
> The lack of the yod calls into question the validity of these examples in
> this question.
>
>>
>> Now, what refers to the meaning...  I'm not sure which is here the real
>> meaning of this word. The NAS has "who veils herself"
>>
>
> (+H is used with M(YL “poncho” ?? so it’s more than just a veil. Does the
> subject of this verse refer to herself as having become a metaphorical
> “covering” for the herds of her beloved’s friends?
>
>>
>> Friendly,
>>
>> Pere Porta
>> (Barcelona, Catalonia, Northeastern Spain)
>>
>> Karl W. Randolph.
>
>


-- 
Pere Porta
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