[b-hebrew] Kalev and Kelev - THREAD OVER

Andronic Khandjani andronicusmy at gmail.com
Fri Sep 16 14:56:06 EDT 2011


I'm sorry, I did not pay attention that the thread was closed.

Firouz Khandjani

2011/9/16 Yigal Levin <Yigal.Levin at biu.ac.il>

> Not only did I not follow that, but it was posted after a moderator had
> called for an end to the thread, and the post was not signed. Double
> offence. Please don't make it a triple.
>
> Yigal levin,
>
> Co-Moderator, B-hebrew
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: b-hebrew-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:
> b-hebrew-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Andronic Khandjani
> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 2:44 PM
> To: Uri Hurwitz
> Cc: b-hebrew at lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Kalev and Kelev
>
> I may suggest another Arabic root:"Qein, Lam, be"(G, the name in "fael bab"
> the equivalent of poel "Qaleb"'(غالب) would mean:"the winner". Usually qein
> is replaced in middle Hebrew by "Ain" as in Gomorha but it maybe replaced
> by
> qof and kaf.
>
> 2011/9/14 Uri Hurwitz <uhurwitz at yahoo.com>
>
> >    The form Kalev most proabaly preserves the original pronounciation of
> > the name.  The Segholites prounounciation in the MT follows the dialectic
> > changes in the original nouns.
> >
> >     This is clearly evident in the declensions of the Segholites, in our
> > case: "Kalbi" "kalbekha" etc, and in the pulural "Klavim" which preserves
> > the ancient plural *KLAB plus the regular Hebrew ms. plural ending - ym.
> >
> >    This is found in Arabic to this day: e.g. "kalb" in singular.
> >
> >    Therefore the biblical personal name Kalev is very close to the
> original
> > pronounciation, except that the original short vowel 'a ' lengthened in
> the
> > MT.
> >
> >    Uri Hurwitz                          Wilmington, VT
> >
> >
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