[b-hebrew] olam

K Randolph kwrandolph at gmail.com
Sun Dec 19 19:08:13 EST 2010


Fred:

I thought you had asked a linguistic question, because this is a
linguistic forum, and responded with a linguistic answer. But now I
see you had a theological question in mind, nothing to do with
linguistics. As a theological statement, it is off topic for this
forum.

Karl W. Randolph.

On 12/19/10, fred burlingame <tensorpath at gmail.com> wrote:
> The structure of aramaic, and cousin biblical hebrew, is designed for use in
> our four dimensional world of space//time; a world of physicality
> and constant change. The language structure is not equipped to participate
> in some other dimensional universe, bereft of space & time. The vocabulary
> suite results from & speaks to our material world.
>
> hence, when isaiah speaks of ארץ and שמים and ימות and ימים ; and when
> daniel talks of מלכו , that language represents a language of four
> dimensional space/time; not some other dimensional universe. "land;"
> "sky;" "die" and "day" imply boundaries; boundaries of space; boundaries of
> change; boundaries of time. These words are incompetent to express a world,
> a universe, where nothing changes and nothing is possessed of physicality;
> in other words the absence of space/time.
>
> and if aramaic and hebrew verbs incompetent to express completed action,
> then everyone in the masoretic text both alive and dead,
> simultaneously, today.
>
> regards,
>
> fred burlingame
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 12:39 PM, K Randolph <kwrandolph at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Fred:
>>
>>  On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 10:07 AM, fred burlingame
>> <tensorpath at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> i see it
>>>
>>> you see it
>>>
>>> even isaiah sees ...
>>>
>>> a time based language ...
>>>
>>
>> You need to distinguish between the structure of the language, and the
>> ideas expressed by the speakers and writers of that language.
>>
>> Biblical Hebrew is timeless, in that its grammar expresses neither tense
>> nor aspect, the means by which languages express time. It is not a time
>> based language.
>>
>>>
>>>>>> plenty people see daniel's aramaic language as not the language of יבשתא
>>> in
>>> daniel 2:10; but rather the language of another universe.
>>>
>>
>> (brow furled in puzzlement) What in the world do you mean by that? It
>> makes
>> absolutely no sense.
>>
>>>
>>> regards,
>>>
>>> fred burlingame
>>>
>>> Karl W. Randolph.
>>
>



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