[b-hebrew] geography

fred burlingame tensorpath at gmail.com
Sat Dec 18 18:57:33 EST 2010


Hello Yigal:

If the land grant of genesis 15:18 differs from the land grant of numbers
34:2,

(and permit me to state parenthetically at this juncture, what a nice forum
of ideas you all have here; as it never entered my mind that two different
land grants ever existed);

then, in that event, the disjunctive punctuation appearing above the word
meaning "inheritance" in numbers 34:2, tends to isolate the succeeding
phrase meaning "land of Canaan." Such separation of this phrase tends to
accentuate and identify "land of Canaan," as "a" or "one;" rather than "the"
or "only," land grant.

regards,

fred burlingame



On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Yigal Levin <leviny1 at mail.biu.ac.il> wrote:

> Fred, I fail to see what the zaqef qatan has to do with it.
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> Yigal Levin
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> From: fred burlingame [mailto:tensorpath at gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 11:43 PM
>  To: Yigal Levin
> Cc: b-hebrew at lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] geography
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> very interesting indeed; i had always thought that the promise of genesis
> 15:18 equals with precision the inheritance of numbers 34:2.
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> I suppose the zaqef qatan above בנחלה in numbers 34:2, becomes all
> important. And here i thought that the little cantillation marks formed
> musical and procedural matters, rather than boundaries of great substance
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> regards,
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> fred burlingame
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> On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Yigal Levin <leviny1 at mail.biu.ac.il>
> wrote:
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> Now you raise a different question, which is that of the relationship
> between the boundaries of the "promised land" in Gen. 15:18 (and other
> places), "from the river of Egypt to the great river Euphrates" and the
> boundaries of "the Land of Canaan" as described in Numbers 34 and other
> sources. I, for one, do not think that they are identical.
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> Yigal Levin
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> From: fred burlingame [mailto:tensorpath at gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 10:33 PM
> To: Yigal Levin
> Cc: b-hebrew at lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] geography
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> Hello Yigal:
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> Thanks for your comments.
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> Nir had suggested lake hula for the vicinity of חצר עינן . But lake hula
> seems far distant from this northern border.
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> ביום ההוא כרת יהוה את אברם ברית לאמר לזרעך נתתי את הארץ הזאת מנהר מצרים עד
> הנהר הגדל נהר פרת
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> בראשית טו יח
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> Even baalbek seems a good bit south of the euphrates river.
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> http://i.infoplease.com/images/msyria.gif
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> regards,
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> fred burlingame
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> On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 1:11 PM, Yigal Levin <leviny1 at mail.biu.ac.il>
> wrote:
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> Hi Fred,
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> The short answer is no. However, several of the places mentioned before and
> after are known. In general, the northern border of Canaan seems to run
> north of todays Baalbek in the central Beqaa Valley. Have a look at Yohanan
> Aharoni's Land of the Bible or the Catra/MacMillan Bible Atlas.
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> Yigal Levin
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