[b-hebrew] one-to-one rendering of olam (was: Song of Songs 1:12)

Isaac Fried if at math.bu.edu
Fri Dec 10 07:29:03 EST 2010


It is crystal clear to me that LE-OLAM is 'forever', yet it has  
nothing to do, in my opinion, with hiding. In Eccl. 3:11, HA-OLAM is  
rendered by King James as "the world", giving rise to the later use  
of OLAM in the sense of 'universe'.

Isaac Fried, Boston University

On Dec 10, 2010, at 4:30 AM, R. Lehmann wrote:

> For olam, see:
>
> Herbert Niehr, Zur Semantik von nordwestsemitisch ˓lm als  
> 'Unterwelt' und 'Grab', in: Ana šadî Labnani lu allik, Festschrift  
> Wiolfgang Röllig, Neukirchen 1997, p. 295-305, esp. 295
>
> and what is written on the prepositional construction possibilities  
> of olam by Ernst Jenni in THAT II, 1979, 228-243, esp. 229.
>
> Consider also the meaning and function of b-olam in the Ahirom  
> sarcophagus inscription:
> Reinhard G. Lehmann, Die Inschrift(en) des A˛ırΩm-Sarkophags und  
> die Schachtinschrift des Grabes v in Jbeil (Byblos), Mainz: Zabern  
> 2005 (Forschungen zur phönizisch-punischen und zyprischen Plastik,  
> hg. von Renate Bol, II.1. Dynastensarkophage mit szenischen Reliefs  
> aus Byblos und Zypern Teil I.2), p. 27-30.
>
> Reinhard G. Lehmann
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>> Message: 20
>> Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 23:28:25 -0500
>> From: Isaac Fried <if at math.bu.edu>
>> To: Uri Hurwitz <uhurwitz at yahoo.com>
>> Cc: b-hebrew at lists.ibiblio.org
>> Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] one-to-one rendering of olam (was: Song of
>> 	Songs	1:12)
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>> I am sorry, but in my humble opinion, "proto-Semitic" is a legend. A
>> very deep Ayin may indeed come close to a G or even an R.
>>
>> Isaac Fried, Boston University
>>
>> On Dec 9, 2010, at 10:41 PM, Uri Hurwitz wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>  Sorry, these are two different roots. The first is
>>> indeed (LM.
>>>   The second is derived from the root GHayin LM.
>>> The proto-Semitic Ghayin was written already in the
>>> ancient paleo-Hebrew script with the same letter that
>>> served the letter (YIN.
>>>
>>>  Compare the name of the city (azah. To this day
>>> the ancient pronounciation is preserved in the English
>>> spelling Ghaza, and, of course, in normal Arabic
>>> spoken and written use where it retains a separate letter.
>>>
>>>    Uri Hurwitz                              Greay Neck, NY
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As I have already observed the word OLAM ( ???? ) is of the root
>>> (LM ( ??? ), which certainly can not mean 'hidden, secrete,
>>> conceal'. To wit: this is also the root of ELEM and ALMAH ( ???,
>>> ???? ), 'young adults', which are not hidden, and have nothing to
>>> hide.
>>>
>>> Isaac Fried, Boston University
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