[b-hebrew] waw "conseq" series -- chronological and logical

James Christian jc.bhebrew at googlemail.com
Fri Nov 20 12:03:35 EST 2009


Hi,

to be honest I really don't see your distinction between logical and
chronological. In the English example you gave everything seems to be
in chronological succession with the last being a hypothetical event
yet all the same chronologically afterwards.

James Christian

2009/11/19, Roe <d.roe at t-online.de>:
> Hi Dave,
>
> Thanks. Please pardon the term "succession."
>
> Can there be shifts from chronological to logical within a singular
> series?  E.g., "he entered the city, [and] he found the court
> (chronological), [and] he went before the king (chronological), [and] he
> pleaded his case (chronological), so that the king would pardon him
> (logical)"?
>
> Thanks again,
> David
>
> D.W. Roe
> Rheinland-Pfalz, Germany
>
>
> dwashbur at nyx.net schrieb:
>> On 19 Nov 2009 at 2:42, Roe wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> If the answer to my question is too complex for an email response,
>>> please refer me to helpful literature -- if it's too simple, my
>>> apologies...
>>>
>>> Within a single waw series of perfect followed by imperfects, is it
>>> possible (or even frequent) that the imperfect waw relatives shift
>>> from
>>> chronological succession to logical succession (and vice versa)? Or
>>> must
>>> all imperfects in the series be either chronological or logical?
>>>
>>
>> There is no "succession," whether chronological or logical, encoded in the
>> so-called "waw
>> consecutive."  It's a simple statement, which is why it works well for
>> narrative prose.
>> Succession is actually encoded in the meanings of the statements being
>> made.  "He went
>> before the king.  He pleaded his case."  There's succession here, but it
>> doesn't come from
>> the verb forms; it comes from the fact that it's difficult to plead one's
>> case with the king if one
>> has not come before him first.  Logical succession follows the same
>> pattern: it results from
>> what is being said/done, not the verb form being used to say it.
>>
>> Dave Washburn
>>
>> http://www.nyx.net/~dwashbur
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