[b-hebrew] Dinah raped?

Isaac Fried if at math.bu.edu
Mon Jul 23 19:10:18 EDT 2007


Yigal,

Are you taking into consideration the possibility that at that time  
Dinah was 8-12 years old, and that she did not go out into foreign  
territories and alien households all by herself but had certainly at  
least one chaperon to accompany her?

Isaac Fried, Boston University

On Jul 21, 2007, at 5:06 PM, Yigal Levin wrote:

> Very good points, James. But all this seems like very typical male  
> behavior,
> in traditional patriarchal societies - "boys will be boys, as long  
> as they
> don't do it with our sister". It was convenient for them to believe  
> that
> Dinah was raped, because then they did not have to deal with the  
> possibly
> that SHE had acted immorally. The text, as it would seem, is  
> ambiguous,
> maybe because the author, the descendants of Dinah's brothers,  
> prefer not to
> accuse their own ancestors of wanton genocide of a whole city.  
> Their act,
> however, is criticized by Jacob, both in v. 30 and later in his  
> blessing in
> 49:5-7.
>
>
>
> We find the same kind of behavior in chapter 38 - Judah has no  
> problem with
> going to a prostitute, but when he "finds out" that his daughter-in- 
> law
> Tamar had been a prostitute, he commands her burned. The text is  
> critical of
> his hypocrisy, but not of either one of his acts in themselves.
>
>
>
> We must be very careful of assuming that the authors of the Bible  
> shared the
> same views on "morality" that modern-day Jews and Christians do.  
> This is
> especially true for matters of sexual behavior.
>
>
>
> Yigal Levin
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "JAMES CHRISTIAN READ" <JCR128 at student.anglia.ac.uk>
>>
>> NWT Genesis 34:7
>> 'And the sons of Jacob came in from the field as soon as they  
>> heard of it;
>> and the men became hurt in their feelings and they grew very angry,
>> because he had committed a disgraceful folly against Israel in  
>> lying down
>> with Jacob’s daughter, whereas nothing like that ought to be done.'
>>
>> Note that no mention of force is included when
>> why her brothers were angry. It is the mere thought of
>> their unmarried sister having extra marital sex.
>>
>> Further consider their response in verse 31 when being
>> reprised by Isreal for their actions:
>>
>> “Ought anyone to treat our sister like a prostitute?”
>>
>> What are prostitutes better known for in Tanakh?
>> For being forced to have sex?
>> Or for having immoral extra-marital sex?
>>
>> However, one contextual point seems to stand in favour
>> of an element of force. And that is why does there
>> seem to be a complete lack of any indication of
>> responsibility on Dinah's shoulders? Why aren't her
>> brothers angry with her for acting 'like a prostitue'?
>> feelings and they grew very angry, because he had committed a  
>> disgraceful
>> folly against Israel in lying down with Jacob’s daughter, whereas  
>> nothing
>> like that ought to be done.'
>>
>> Note that no mention of force is included when
>> why her brothers were angry. It is the mere thought of
>> their unmarried sister having extra marital sex.
>>
>> Further consider their response in verse 31 when being
>> reprised by Isreal for their actions:
>>
>> “Ought anyone to treat our sister like a prostitute?”
>>
>> What are prostitutes better k
>>
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